Quote:
Originally Posted by carbonBLUE
redline is at 7450 rpms so 60mph is possible!
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That's still unknown. I picked those numbers as a middle ground between Insideline's report that the rev limiter in 2nd kicks in at 59.2, and serialk11r's comment that 5th maxes out at ~131.
In retrospect, serialk11r probably based 5th maxing out at 131 on my comment earlier in the thread (note in that in that same comment, I had written that it hits 60 MPH in 2nd). Tire deformation is such that it'll have a higher rolling radius at 131 MPH than at 59.2 MPH, but I don't know the formula.
Maybe 2nd does top out at 59.2 MPH, or maybe Insideline's tires were slightly deflated, or maybe Insideline's results were slightly off due to a mishap with their testing equipment. Who knows? I started this thread because I was curious about gear ratios in general, but I don't care if 2nd tops out at 59.2 or 60.8 MPH. But FWIW, GT5 lets me get to 60 in 2nd gear
Quote:
Originally Posted by Allch Chcar
Deslock, can you output numbers or did you do that by hand? I'd like to see auto vs manual and even compare with 3.727 gears if you could do that easier than me.
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Since we don't know the story regarding rolling radius, here are the two extremes for all three transmissions (again how tire deformation varies with speed is not accounted for):
6MT, DR 3.727, Dia 23.975"
Code:
RPM 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
1400 7.4 12.2 17.4 22.1 26.8 34.9
1600 8.4 14.0 19.9 25.2 30.6 39.9
1800 9.5 15.7 22.4 28.4 34.4 44.9
2000 10.6 17.5 24.8 31.6 38.3 49.9
2200 11.6 19.2 27.3 34.7 42.1 54.9
2400 12.7 21.0 29.8 37.9 45.9 59.9
2600 13.7 22.7 32.3 41.0 49.8 64.9
2800 14.8 24.5 34.8 44.2 53.6 69.9
3000 15.8 26.2 37.3 47.3 57.4 74.9
3200 16.9 28.0 39.7 50.5 61.2 79.8
3400 17.9 29.7 42.2 53.6 65.1 84.8
3600 19.0 31.5 44.7 56.8 68.9 89.8
3800 20.1 33.2 47.2 60.0 72.7 94.8
4000 21.1 35.0 49.7 63.1 76.5 99.8
4200 22.2 36.7 52.2 66.3 80.4 104.8
4400 23.2 38.5 54.6 69.4 84.2 109.8
4600 24.3 40.2 57.1 72.6 88.0 114.8
4800 25.3 42.0 59.6 75.7 91.9 119.8
5000 26.4 43.7 62.1 78.9 95.7 124.8
5200 27.4 45.5 64.6 82.0 99.5 129.7
5400 28.5 47.2 67.1 85.2 103.3 134.7
5600 29.6 49.0 69.5 88.4 107.2 139.7
5800 30.6 50.7 72.0 91.5 111.0 144.7
6000 31.7 52.5 74.5 94.7 114.8 149.7
6200 32.7 54.2 77.0 97.8 118.7 154.7
6400 33.8 56.0 79.5 101.0 122.5 159.7
6600 34.8 57.7 82.0 104.1 126.3 164.7
6800 35.9 59.5 84.4 107.3 130.1 169.7
7000 36.9 61.2 86.9 110.4 134.0 174.7
7200 38.0 63.0 89.4 113.6 137.8 179.6
7400 39.1 64.7 91.9 116.7 141.6 184.6
7450 39.3 65.2 92.5 117.5 142.6 185.9
6MT, DR 3.727, Dia 24.6"
Code:
RPM 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
1400 7.6 12.6 17.8 22.7 27.5 35.8
1600 8.7 14.4 20.4 25.9 31.4 41.0
1800 9.7 16.2 22.9 29.1 35.3 46.1
2000 10.8 17.9 25.5 32.4 39.3 51.2
2200 11.9 19.7 28.0 35.6 43.2 56.3
2400 13.0 21.5 30.6 38.9 47.1 61.4
2600 14.1 23.3 33.1 42.1 51.1 66.6
2800 15.2 25.1 35.7 45.3 55.0 71.7
3000 16.2 26.9 38.2 48.6 58.9 76.8
3200 17.3 28.7 40.8 51.8 62.8 81.9
3400 18.4 30.5 43.3 55.0 66.8 87.0
3600 19.5 32.3 45.9 58.3 70.7 92.2
3800 20.6 34.1 48.4 61.5 74.6 97.3
4000 21.7 35.9 51.0 64.8 78.5 102.4
4200 22.7 37.7 53.5 68.0 82.5 107.5
4400 23.8 39.5 56.1 71.2 86.4 112.6
4600 24.9 41.3 58.6 74.5 90.3 117.8
4800 26.0 43.1 61.2 77.7 94.3 122.9
5000 27.1 44.9 63.7 80.9 98.2 128.0
5200 28.2 46.7 66.3 84.2 102.1 133.1
5400 29.2 48.5 68.8 87.4 106.0 138.2
5600 30.3 50.3 71.4 90.7 110.0 143.4
5800 31.4 52.1 73.9 93.9 113.9 148.5
6000 32.5 53.8 76.5 97.1 117.8 153.6
6200 33.6 55.6 79.0 100.4 121.7 158.7
6400 34.7 57.4 81.6 103.6 125.7 163.8
6600 35.7 59.2 84.1 106.8 129.6 169.0
6800 36.8 61.0 86.6 110.1 133.5 174.1
7000 37.9 62.8 89.2 113.3 137.5 179.2
7200 39.0 64.6 91.7 116.6 141.4 184.3
7400 40.1 66.4 94.3 119.8 145.3 189.5
7450 40.3 66.9 94.9 120.6 146.3 190.7
6MT, DR 4.1, Dia 23.975"
Code:
RPM 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
1400 6.7 11.1 15.8 20.1 24.4 31.8
1600 7.7 12.7 18.1 22.9 27.8 36.3
1800 8.6 14.3 20.3 25.8 31.3 40.8
2000 9.6 15.9 22.6 28.7 34.8 45.4
2200 10.6 17.5 24.8 31.6 38.3 49.9
2400 11.5 19.1 27.1 34.4 41.8 54.4
2600 12.5 20.7 29.4 37.3 45.2 59.0
2800 13.4 22.3 31.6 40.2 48.7 63.5
3000 14.4 23.9 33.9 43.0 52.2 68.0
3200 15.4 25.4 36.1 45.9 55.7 72.6
3400 16.3 27.0 38.4 48.8 59.1 77.1
3600 17.3 28.6 40.6 51.6 62.6 81.7
3800 18.2 30.2 42.9 54.5 66.1 86.2
4000 19.2 31.8 45.2 57.4 69.6 90.7
4200 20.2 33.4 47.4 60.2 73.1 95.3
4400 21.1 35.0 49.7 63.1 76.5 99.8
4600 22.1 36.6 51.9 66.0 80.0 104.3
4800 23.0 38.2 54.2 68.8 83.5 108.9
5000 24.0 39.8 56.4 71.7 87.0 113.4
5200 24.9 41.3 58.7 74.6 90.5 117.9
5400 25.9 42.9 61.0 77.4 93.9 122.5
5600 26.9 44.5 63.2 80.3 97.4 127.0
5800 27.8 46.1 65.5 83.2 100.9 131.6
6000 28.8 47.7 67.7 86.1 104.4 136.1
6200 29.7 49.3 70.0 88.9 107.9 140.6
6400 30.7 50.9 72.3 91.8 111.3 145.2
6600 31.7 52.5 74.5 94.7 114.8 149.7
6800 32.6 54.1 76.8 97.5 118.3 154.2
7000 33.6 55.7 79.0 100.4 121.8 158.8
7200 34.5 57.2 81.3 103.3 125.3 163.3
7400 35.5 58.8 83.5 106.1 128.7 167.8
7450 35.7 59.2 84.1 106.8 129.6 169.0
6MT, DR 4.1, Dia 24.6"
Code:
RPM 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
1400 6.9 11.4 16.2 20.6 25.0 32.6
1600 7.9 13.1 18.5 23.5 28.6 37.2
1800 8.9 14.7 20.9 26.5 32.1 41.9
2000 9.8 16.3 23.2 29.4 35.7 46.5
2200 10.8 17.9 25.5 32.4 39.3 51.2
2400 11.8 19.6 27.8 35.3 42.8 55.9
2600 12.8 21.2 30.1 38.3 46.4 60.5
2800 13.8 22.8 32.4 41.2 50.0 65.2
3000 14.8 24.5 34.8 44.1 53.5 69.8
3200 15.8 26.1 37.1 47.1 57.1 74.5
3400 16.7 27.7 39.4 50.0 60.7 79.1
3600 17.7 29.4 41.7 53.0 64.3 83.8
3800 18.7 31.0 44.0 55.9 67.8 88.4
4000 19.7 32.6 46.3 58.9 71.4 93.1
4200 20.7 34.3 48.7 61.8 75.0 97.7
4400 21.7 35.9 51.0 64.7 78.5 102.4
4600 22.6 37.5 53.3 67.7 82.1 107.1
4800 23.6 39.2 55.6 70.6 85.7 111.7
5000 24.6 40.8 57.9 73.6 89.2 116.4
5200 25.6 42.4 60.2 76.5 92.8 121.0
5400 26.6 44.1 62.6 79.5 96.4 125.7
5600 27.6 45.7 64.9 82.4 100.0 130.3
5800 28.6 47.3 67.2 85.4 103.5 135.0
6000 29.5 48.9 69.5 88.3 107.1 139.6
6200 30.5 50.6 71.8 91.2 110.7 144.3
6400 31.5 52.2 74.1 94.2 114.2 148.9
6600 32.5 53.8 76.5 97.1 117.8 153.6
6800 33.5 55.5 78.8 100.1 121.4 158.3
7000 34.5 57.1 81.1 103.0 124.9 162.9
7200 35.4 58.7 83.4 106.0 128.5 167.6
7400 36.4 60.4 85.7 108.9 132.1 172.2
7450 36.7 60.8 86.3 109.6 133.0 173.4
6AT, Dia 23.975"
Code:
RPM 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
1400 6.9 11.8 17.3 24.4 34.2 41.8
1600 7.9 13.5 19.8 27.8 39.0 47.8
1800 8.9 15.2 22.3 31.3 43.9 53.8
2000 9.8 16.9 24.8 34.8 48.8 59.8
2200 10.8 18.6 27.3 38.3 53.7 65.8
2400 11.8 20.3 29.7 41.8 58.6 71.7
2600 12.8 22.0 32.2 45.2 63.4 77.7
2800 13.8 23.6 34.7 48.7 68.3 83.7
3000 14.8 25.3 37.2 52.2 73.2 89.7
3200 15.7 27.0 39.7 55.7 78.1 95.7
3400 16.7 28.7 42.1 59.1 83.0 101.6
3600 17.7 30.4 44.6 62.6 87.8 107.6
3800 18.7 32.1 47.1 66.1 92.7 113.6
4000 19.7 33.8 49.6 69.6 97.6 119.6
4200 20.7 35.5 52.0 73.1 102.5 125.5
4400 21.6 37.2 54.5 76.5 107.4 131.5
4600 22.6 38.8 57.0 80.0 112.2 137.5
4800 23.6 40.5 59.5 83.5 117.1 143.5
5000 24.6 42.2 62.0 87.0 122.0 149.5
5200 25.6 43.9 64.4 90.5 126.9 155.4
5400 26.6 45.6 66.9 93.9 131.8 161.4
5600 27.5 47.3 69.4 97.4 136.6 167.4
5800 28.5 49.0 71.9 100.9 141.5 173.4
6000 29.5 50.7 74.3 104.4 146.4 179.3
6200 30.5 52.4 76.8 107.9 151.3 185.3
6400 31.5 54.0 79.3 111.3 156.2 191.3
6600 32.5 55.7 81.8 114.8 161.0 197.3
6800 33.4 57.4 84.3 118.3 165.9 203.3
7000 34.4 59.1 86.7 121.8 170.8 209.2
7200 35.4 60.8 89.2 125.3 175.7 215.2
7400 36.4 62.5 91.7 128.7 180.6 221.2
7450 36.6 62.9 92.3 129.6 181.8 222.7
6AT, Dia 24.6"
Code:
RPM 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
1400 7.1 12.1 17.8 25.0 35.0 42.9
1600 8.1 13.9 20.3 28.6 40.1 49.1
1800 9.1 15.6 22.9 32.1 45.1 55.2
2000 10.1 17.3 25.4 35.7 50.1 61.3
2200 11.1 19.1 28.0 39.3 55.1 67.5
2400 12.1 20.8 30.5 42.8 60.1 73.6
2600 13.1 22.5 33.1 46.4 65.1 79.7
2800 14.1 24.3 35.6 50.0 70.1 85.9
3000 15.1 26.0 38.1 53.5 75.1 92.0
3200 16.1 27.7 40.7 57.1 80.1 98.1
3400 17.2 29.5 43.2 60.7 85.1 104.3
3600 18.2 31.2 45.8 64.3 90.1 110.4
3800 19.2 32.9 48.3 67.8 95.1 116.5
4000 20.2 34.7 50.9 71.4 100.1 122.7
4200 21.2 36.4 53.4 75.0 105.1 128.8
4400 22.2 38.1 55.9 78.5 110.2 134.9
4600 23.2 39.9 58.5 82.1 115.2 141.1
4800 24.2 41.6 61.0 85.7 120.2 147.2
5000 25.2 43.3 63.6 89.2 125.2 153.4
5200 26.2 45.1 66.1 92.8 130.2 159.5
5400 27.2 46.8 68.7 96.4 135.2 165.6
5600 28.3 48.5 71.2 100.0 140.2 171.8
5800 29.3 50.3 73.7 103.5 145.2 177.9
6000 30.3 52.0 76.3 107.1 150.2 184.0
6200 31.3 53.7 78.8 110.7 155.2 190.2
6400 32.3 55.5 81.4 114.2 160.2 196.3
6600 33.3 57.2 83.9 117.8 165.2 202.4
6800 34.3 58.9 86.5 121.4 170.2 208.6
7000 35.3 60.7 89.0 124.9 175.2 214.7
7200 36.3 62.4 91.5 128.5 180.3 220.8
7400 37.3 64.1 94.1 132.1 185.3 227.0
7450 37.6 64.6 94.7 133.0 186.5 228.5