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Originally Posted by Annahra
Both are fabulous for groceries and road trips with the dog.
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Absolutely right.
I'm wondering what kind of groceries these people are buying that won't fit into the BRZ. Unless you're laying in supplies for a winter trapped in the mountains, that objection doesn't make any sense.
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Originally Posted by Jac
If you still want to debate feel free to PM me, we're going off-topic.
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I don't think it's off topic at all, since it goes directly to the question of whether the car is affordable. "Affordable" goes beyond just whether one has enough money to purchase the thing. It also involves opportunity cost.
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Originally Posted by Jac
1. Most cars depreciate, a select few don't. For example, older air cooled 911s are increasing in value. A BRZ will definitely fit into the former.
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That doesn't really address the question. If most cars depreciate, then most cars would also be bad investments regardless of whether they are sports cars. What makes this one any worse than a family car or any other car? I'm expecting the BRZ to hold its value much better than many cars in its price range.
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Originally Posted by Jac
2. All comes down to ones definition of 'need'. If you're a professional racing driver and need to earn a living then sure you need a BRZ. But if you have a desk job and already have a daily then purchasing a BRZ is completely superfluous.
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I
need a relatively inexpensive daily driver that gets good gas mileage. Ignoring for a moment that this is a sports car and just evaluating on price, performance and utility, this car does everything I
need. Again, you haven't provided any real evidence that this car is either unnecessary or a bad investment compared to any other car.
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Originally Posted by Jac
Doesn't mean that we don't have non-essential needs. For example i like to drink beer but i don't need to.
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You don't even have to get into wants. I
need reliable, economical transportation. I would lose my job otherwise. If this were not a sports car and were just an economy car that gets great gas mileage (34 MPG on my trip last week), is comfortable on long highway trips and costs less than $30K, it would still fit my needs.
To tie this back to the OP's question, I selected this car to replace a Jeep XJ as a daily driver, so I know the kind of problems his XJ is likely to be facing, and I know exactly what he would lose if he were to give up the XJ entirely for this car. Making blanket statements that imply that the BRZ would be a worse choice than any other car doesn't really help. It may not be a good investment
for you or a necessary choice
for you, but praise the gods that we are not you.