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Originally Posted by glamcem
I have to disagree with some of the above comments ..yes, the tires, brakes and suspension mods make a lot of difference but I think we all have to agree that this car is very very slow in stock form simply because it doesn't make a healthy 200 hp with its torque dip... and OP already mentioned that he tracks his FRS regularly so don't you think that "address other issues before more power" line getting old?
Also "fast driver > fast car" is a very bold statement.. how much of a fast or technologically advanced car are we talking about here? sure a more experienced driver can make better lap times in his/hers slightly lesser car but I can almost guarantee you if you put a mediocre driver in a GT-R, he/she'll be always faster than your stock powered BRZ/FRS unless of course it's their very first track day or something wrong with the car simply because GT-R does everything for the driver and a lot easier to drive fast with confidence .. HP advantage makes up for the difference in many cases.. take a look at the below video that I took last week, I am pretty sure the driver in the GT3RS is a new driver or something (brake, tires) are wrong with his car since even I was a lot faster at tight corners and was able to catch him! the car pulls away like a train as soon as it sees a straightaway which makes it for the difference easily  (my car is stock powered with Nitto NT01 R -comps) does that mean fast driver > fast car ? no, it only means fast driver > extremely slow driver (or fast car with a problem)
Long story short this car only lacks about 50hp ( stable hp without the dip) not some crazy amount of power but rather sufficient power to balance its weight  |
"Tracking regularly" is a very general statement. It can mean anywhere from once a month, to six times a year, to almost every weekend. In all cases there is ALWAYS room for improvement. It's not so much "address other issues before power". It's more so, build on your current driving skill so you can use that when making changes. That being said, I favor the lack of power this chassis possesses (I do agree this car is slow as shit), because it forces the driver to focus on their line, braking, corner exit etc. With gobs of horsepower, like the gtr for example, the driver could basically turn a single lap into multiple drag races, and quite possibly yield a faster lap time than your seasoned driver in a stock power frs/brz. What happens if you stick that driver in a slow car? All of a sudden he's all over the track, taking the wrong lines, and now he can't rely on straight line speed. Now reverse that and put a seasoned driver in a gtr. he'll be taking the correct lines, exiting corners perfectly and netting faster lap times in no time.
By fast driver > fast car, I don't mean a seasoned driver in a miata will be faster around the track than a medicore driver in a gtr. What I mean by this is driving skill
ALWAYS comes first. A seasoned driver will be able to utilize changes to the car much better than a medicore driver can.