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Originally Posted by solidONE
Wow that's harsh, Mike. I've been working on and with cars for a bit. While not very proficient with one on track yet. I think I have a decent idea how a car works.
What would you consider as prepped for stock class with your rules?
My setup:
Added camber from bolts all 4 corners maximum adjustment except for RR.
w/o driver in seat:
FL: -1.8 FR:-2.0
RL: -0.8 RR:-1.3
Front toe:0 Rear toe: 1/16"~1/32" in
Pads, Brake/Trans/Diff Fluids.
RS-3 225 on stock wheels.
Drop in filter. Track pipe.
Air/Oil Separator.
3-pt 4130 Strut bar
Want to add:
Oil cooler. for the upcomming 100+ track temps.
19-20mm front sway to decrease roll.
To me , fast or quick (not necessarily 500+ HPS 200MPH monster machines a miata or FR-S will do) and control is the goal, setting up cars is what we do to help get there. And it's all fun when things are progressing in a positive manner.
So you are recommending VSC on, it sounds like. Some say off other say on. If leaving VSC on will help me be smoother, that is exactly what I'll do.
Chuckwalla was the first time I did not see any progress in terms driving or riding ability or lap times. Actually regressed. So I guess you can say it was the least fun I had on a racetrack. lol Still fun, but depressing at the same time. I hope to change that with some pointers and instruction. My friend with the Cayman S OTOH he was hitting all his goals for that day getting faster each session out. Ended with a 2:08 flat on KW V3, some beat up used mismatching RS-3's, sway bar, and some alignment tweeks he did in his garage himself. Now, he had a lot of fun at Chuck's.
Edit: I want to add that my second track day with this car you drove my car a few laps with me in it. You did not say much, but you did suggest that I turn the TC completely off (as did the previous coach did at buttonwillow)IIRC. I was not able to learn much from the experience due to lack of communication verbally and the huge difference in our pace (super fast vs super slow). You seem to be pushing the car pretty hard as evidenced by the constant corrections with steering you were making. All I got from that was "damn that guy is fucking fast" Clocked you at 1:33 with harry's timer. I personally did a 1:38.9 before the heat got to me (113 degrees ambient when I checked) and headed home. No videos doe to the overheating iphone. Car only had RS3 225 (same set I used at chucks) on RPF1 17x8, a set of camber bolts, and about 2500 miles on the ODO nothing else.
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I'd recommend you run 0 toe in the rear, and learn to control the car.
A larger front sway will only make the car understeer more at terminal, and make any oversteers come on faster/harder. Roll isn't a bad thing. Have you seen who much roll we get with 10k/12k?
If your objective is lap times, then leave TC/VSC on. If your objective is to learn to drive the car, then turn TC/VSC off. Right now, at your level of driving, the two are mutually exclusive. You need to decide which is more important, your lap time or your driving progression. I'll tell you now that focusing on your driving will ultimately result in faster times.
I make a lot of small corrections because I'm trying to stay on the right line, not because I'm fighting for control. If I were past the limit of grip, there wouldn't be any grip left to correct with.
I've said this over and over: Seat time is king.
