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Originally Posted by bigbcraig
... why does everyone want a turbo and/or a lot if power in this car? I just want something flyweight and precise! gah!
Even if I am adding power, even forced induction, later, I want to be able to get performance suspension/brakes without a turbo (or worse, V6!) engine, or a loaded interior.
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Really. I want this to be a small, simple, performance oriented car. for all of you guys pining for more power and beefier transmission and sone luxury and this and that... these cars exist. go get a Mustang / Z / Genesis.
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Is part of your concern maybe that Toyota has a crappy history of NA performance when there are NA and Turbo trims levels?
With the Supra and MR2 in North America, the NA versions seemed like after-thoughts to sell a few more cars. Especially the North American MR2, with its 5SFE (Seriously, Toyota?). Plus there is almost no power-oriented aftermarket for the NA cars.
But I think a lot of the Turbo assumptions come from the fact that it's supposed to have a Subaru engine. Subaru + Performance = Turbo in most people's minds. (And personally for me Turbo = Performance, but I'm a Supra guy so that can't be helped.)
However the good news for you is that the GT5 car is NA. Polyphony Digital takes their relationship with the manufacturers pretty seriously, and if they made the car NA in the game, it's because they had a very good reason from Toyota to do so.
The closest current engine that could do the job is Subaru's EJ204 AVCS NA engine. I don't know anything about this engine beyond what is on Wikipedia, but 190 HP NA sounds about up your alley. 190 HP out of 2.0L means it's got to rev. Plus 190 Hp in 2700 lbs would be quite respectable and suitable to their price target, I think.
If there is no turbo engine, 190 HP would be my minimum acceptable number, if there's no way to cram in an EJ257, or hybrid EJ22G (turbo Legacy bottom/EJ20G heads).