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I think you are saying the same thing I said--the money is coming from the same place, but if they are coming up on your trade and taking that value out of the new car, then the price you paid for the new car doesn't show the deal you actually got. The problem is there is no absolute value on a trade, so you can't say, "I traded in XX and got YY for it, so I made(/lost) ZZ on my trade" and then add or subtract that from your new car pricing, but it does factor in. If you get screwed on your trade but get a great deal on the new car, you still get a bad deal overall. It's why it will never be apples to apples when you compare to someone else's purchase when a trade is involved.
For example, I could have taken their first offer of $20K on my trade and paid the $28.2K I negotiated on the new car. Instead, I argued up to $21K on my trade and paid $28.2K for the new car. I still paid the same for the new car, but I got a much better deal.
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