read that whole thread. I'm a fan of bimmers. always have been. was a huge e46 fan...until i rode in an e36 m3 with nothing but suspension mods. that car was on rails!! if you guys are shopping soley for a track car check out a used e36 M. If you don't want something that old or if you want something new then BRZ/FRS it is (going off the reviews).
BMW may have shifted towards being upscale and trendy and what not but they started out building machines for the enthusiast. hence "the ultimate driving machine" motto. I agree they're trying to build brand prestige by targeting a "higher class" market, but i'd be willing to bet if they built a car for enthusiasts like toyota/subaru it would sell without consequence. Enthusiasts build the rep of car companies. the average consumer doesn't know how well a car handles, its 1/4 mile time, etc etc. theyre concerned with mpg, reliability, safety, etc. hence hyundai's growth and toyotas growth. enthusiasts talk. they review. they research. they recommend. they influence. toyota wants their enthusiasts back. its a smart move. subaru wants to expand/solidfy the enthusiast base they created with the wrx/sti. i hope this pushes other manufacturers into creating vehicles that are more "fun".
As for the thread...e46 or brz....ehhh like others have said.with the e46 you're GOING to have repairs/maintence costs and those will be expensive. the brz/frs is still unknown at this point. 99% of us have yet to drive one and we're going off reviews of pre-production models. im going to say BRZ/FRZ just because i want one.
