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Old 04-01-2014, 02:54 AM   #245
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VVT Noise Catastrophic Engine Failuer Urgent

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Originally Posted by Dezoris View Post
THE ISSUE:
I have heard this is multiple tunes, including the Perrin, Vish, and Visconti.
Vish explained it's simply a large change in VVT timing in a small amount of RPMs. (5 to 40 degrees)

I'd like more technical information on what exactly is creating the noise. Perrin said its resonance, Vish said its "rasp." Sounds like shit, and like valvetrain noise to me. With all of the tuning drama recently...

I'd like a straight answer as to mechanically what is happening, because if the long term effects of reducing torque dip has mechanical implications I want the VVT timing cut back.

SOUNDS OF THE MODIFIED VVT TUNING TO REDUCE TORQUE DIP
Here are the logs to accompany the video:





New comparison video, stock VVT map vs aggressive VVT tune:






Noise can be heard here Perrin Tune: at time -31.00 and -23.00

http://www.freesound.org/people/dezoris/sounds/191194/



And here on Vish dyno: At 22 Seconds



At 22 Seconds


UPDATE: 3/11


Perrin modified my flash file to go back to a stockish VVT map from 2800-4200RPM range. After the flash the valve train noise is now gone.

The argument remains, tuners say the noise introduced from the optimal/aggressive VVT tuning is normal. Tuning VVT agressively can be done on FI or NA the same way, depends on the motor on how much noise it generates.

Given the unproven long term mechanical implications of those statements (if any) going back to a conservative VVT setting is good insurance for now.
I have been watching your YouTube videos they are very cool. After seeing the YouTube video FA20 VVT valaetrain noise I was very concerned with that spine chilling VVT noise. Wile searching the web I stumbled across this video by MRT Performance Australia on YouTube. Subaru has come across a problem with there VVT control system. Subaru are on there THIRD revision on the variable valve timing control assemble. After being tuned the VVT can advance to +40 causing something in the variable valve timing control assemble to fail. Witch causes the engine oil to bypass part of the VVT cams causing very low oil pressure. Check this YouTube Video out and see what you think fast forward to 4 minutes [ame]http://youtu.be/7iw1Pdln8eI?t=3m55s[/ame] .



Please email me on wot you think.
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