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Old 03-21-2014, 12:45 PM   #114
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Originally Posted by icemang17 View Post
I agree with your assessment 1,000,000% lets be CLEAR.....the FT86 Cup is NOT A RACE...not even close....it IS a time trial....................................

There is a HUGE difference....most of the Ft86 owners are new to driving on a big track...it is worlds different than autox or drifting or spirited street driving (which is illegal)
I suppose we could sit here and split hairs about the semantics of racing/time attack/time trial/etc. but instead of doing so I'll simply say if I'm in a car, with the clock running, trying to beat the time of the next man, then I AM racing. Period.

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In my opinion running a time trial is worlds different than wheel to wheel RACING... Lets be perfectly clear....most time trials are conducted during normal DE sessions (typically the highest level, "open" or whatever they call it)....true all out time trials consist of a group warm up period then everyone lines up in the hot pits and get sent out for 2 hot laps with almost zero traffic.....cars are sent out at intervals to allow this...

Ft86 is ran the DE way (meaning during normal DE sessions)....so if you are on a hot lap and a slower driver gets in your way, you are REQUIRED to follow the rules of your run group....if you make an aggressive move and there is an incident...not only are you jeopardizing your lap, you car, the other guys car....you are jeopardizing the future of the Ft86 cup... I cannot be more clear on this.

We are running with NCRC this weekend. The passing rules are very clear for every group. If the corner workers see you violating the rules they will black flag you....and they rarely miss anything. Then you can explain why you are "racing" in a drivers education class to a race official....trust me this is NOT a conversation you want to have.
Are you even addressing me or the lawyers that may read this at some point?
I'm well aware of the loopholes that governing bodies use to execute a time attack series within the framework of a "Driver Education" event.

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The moral of my long winding story....don't worry about what you "think" your car can do...or why this or that car passed you since yours is SO much better.... Drive within YOUR limits...since if you exceed your limits the consequences are NEVER worth it.
While I do think this is good advice for average DE participants, I think it loses some of it's meaning for time attack drivers. Most fast drivers will tell you that you have to probe the limits in order to run faster laps. Unfortunately, probing the limits means that you sometimes will have to step over the limit to know where the limit is. Therefore, the consequences are "NEVER" worth it only to the hosting organization and not necessarily the driver. I know I've appreciated every one of my spins and/or offs as a learning experiences that have helped me progress as a driver. I guess it all depends on your perspective.
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