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Originally Posted by regal
Well turbos aren't reliable enough for the Toyota nameplate, Tada hates them. Toyota is one of the last hold outs on small car DIT's.
IME Squeezing more reliable hp out of the NA FA20 would be more expensive that tweaking the FA20T that's been on the shelf a couple years.
See where I'm going with this? I've been saying a while now that this car will only survive as a Subaru. I think Toyota is after the BMW M2 price category for a sporty GT. I mean The M1 was practically a Supra except the exterior (twin turbo, I6,rwd and unlimited HP.)
Toyota's statements recently just add up to a loss of interest by them. Subaru on the other hand has a car (including the FRS) that sold more than the WRX domestically. They have more incentive and hold the cards with a Toyota free DIT engine on the shelf ready to be detuned a little a dropped in. Alll they need is more dealerships, that's where Scion' departure from Toyota comes in.
Scion was supposed to sell to the younger Japanese car buyer cool crowd , but since its inceptions the WRX is the hip car. Subaru could revitalize Scion with the BRZ and WRX alone, add a hatchback. I think the hand writing is on the wall. They might not call them Scions but I think a deal is in the works.
Think of this : financially Subaru needs this platform, Toyota doesn't.
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Not that I think they are going to turbo it anytime soon, and I think these debates back and forth are silly and are pure speculation...
Turbos aren't reliable enough for Toyota? Do you not recall quite a list of reliable Turbo Toyota engines over the years, because I can.