[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by imag

That was exactly my point. That's why I don't go on a thread and say everyone else's opinion is pointless and tell people what they should do.

FWIW, I have used search, and have read prior comments about this. This particular thread was based a confirmed refresh for 2015. All sorts of things had been speculated about, but the refresh had not been confirmed until Tada's post. That makes it relevant to those who have been waiting (for our own good reasons) to buy the car.

People seem to take offense at the wishing in the thread without understanding that it was structured that way for a reason. I thought it was worth separating what people think will *actually* happen from what they *want* to happen. Separating out the wishlist items was a way at getting people to talk about what was actually likely for the refresh. The thread was also intended to separate the legitimate speculation from the conversation about Tada-san's post. If you see no value to it, then you can move on. Enjoy your beer.

So are we done here then?