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Originally Posted by chrisl

Ok, but that didn't answer my other questions. How long are your trips (is the engine getting fully warmed up for most of the trip, or are they short trips done mostly with the engine cold)? Also, when you say city driving, how fast are you going most of the time? Lots of speeding up and slowing down, or fairly constant speed? Finally, what kind of fuel consumption are you seeing out of your Celica? That was also a pretty efficient car, with half the horsepower and 500 pounds less weight than the GT-86, so it isn't actually surprising that it would be getting similar (or slightly better) gas mileage. I wouldn't expect it to get wildly better gas mileage though.

Also, you have a manual, right? You say you are short shifting it, but how much gas are you using? It can actually use quite a bit of gas to be flooring it while lugging the engine - it's better to let it rev a bit more (3500-4k) and use 60-70% throttle if that's what you're doing. That having been said, if all of your driving is in the city (and especially if it is primarily short trips), you will get bad gas mileage. There's really no way around it (and pretty much any other modern car would be similar, except perhaps a hybrid).

So you say it's better to keep it over 3500 but less than 4k? I'm most of the time below 3k, check what I said to vincent. About driving habit.