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Originally Posted by SirBrass
Well, the name "Scion" should've given you a clue :P.
j.k. j.k.
Only real reason I went with Subaru over Toyota is brand loyalty... and I was really put off by Scion's fixed pricing (not a cost saver, just a way to let dealers add on mark up parts and insist on a too-high OTD price... whereas with Subaru you can at least negotiate something a little lower than they originally want to charge you). Otherwise, I could have gone either way and been totally happy.
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Actually the only other Scion I ever saw was a god awful box looking "minivan" type certainly not a young persons car!

Now that right there should have given me reason to pause!

As far as the fixed price goes, the FR-S has very few available dealer options, mine has none. The haggling actual occurs in your trade in price.
But I do agree with your general premise that the fixed pricing is basically a dealer scam!
Between the BRZ and FR-S, I chose the FR-S because and this is a good one! I found the ultramarine available at a dealer ~ 2hrs from my house. All the others closer by were white for some reason. Either way I think it is a really decent car.