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Old 02-23-2014, 05:29 AM   #194
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Originally Posted by DMDominator View Post
Can't say we didn't see this coming. There's still a ton of unsold 10 Series and then they release Monogram and make the car what it should have been here in the US from launch (or at the very least a trim option). The Monogram manuals will all move but the automatics will sit on the lots just like the 10 Series automatics do. Two variants along with poor brand recognition for Scion, a price tag that is higher than competing coupes and the WRX eating at most potential sales over on the Subaru side... This car is destined to be phased out around 2017.

I still have not decided what to do with mine quite yet. It's paid off and I'm happy with it other than regrets that I didn't go for a manual. Drove manual for 15 years and wanted to give it a break. I've really been looking at the WRX and Focus ST more and more.
Perhaps for my own sanity I should just stay out of this thread. I don't know how or where the idea that the FR-S and BRZ are slow selling in the U.S. took hold besides the original piece of FUD that was the OP's original article, but that notion is patently false.

Sales in the U.S. are not slow for either the FR-S or BRZ.

The FR-S just missed it's 20k unit goal at 18.3k units sold, and the BRZ exceeded it's 6.7k unit goal at 8.5k units sold.

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Autoblog.com Brandon Turkus Posted Feb 21st 2014 2:00PM
...Scion's Vice President, Doug Murtha, tells Autoblog that his brand is happy with the sales of its version of the GT86, the FR-S. 18,000 units were sold last year, which Murtha says is "generally in line with original expectations for the car."

"We can only comment on the sales success of the FR-S and not its variants in other markets, in the US, Scion deems the FR-S successful. Considering the FR-S sales performance and the sports car's brand impact, the FR-S is fulfilling its mission for the Scion brand," he went on to say. "Given its success in the US, Scion continues to study ways to enhance and improve the FR-S' appeal in the market as this sports car's lifecycle matures."

We contacted Subaru for comment, and found them to be of a similar opinion: "We're happy with our sales of the BRZ," said Subaru spokesman Dominick Infante, who also pointed that the 8,587 units Subaru moved in the BRZ's first year on sale were "in line with expectations," while January's year-over-year sales were up 27 percent.

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/21/t...ing-worldwide/
With exception of high-volume commodity models like the Mustang and Camaro, the FR-S outsold every 370Z, Miata, and GenCoupe combined. Even the lower volume BRZ quadrupled sales of the GenCoupe.

Gonna re-post this here, and then jump off a bridge. **ragequit**
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Originally Posted by MarcFr-s
Actually the sales of this car have been quite good.

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/2013-sci...140013395.html

Toyota (*Europe) is missing the boat.



...AND FOR HEAVEN SAKES THIS!


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Take a look at the numbers for 2013 for cars relatively in the same segment as the FR-S/GT 86/BRZ (rear-drive, coupe):
Chevrolet Camaro 2013 (US): 80,567
Ford Mustang 2013 (US): 77,186
Scion FR-S 2013 (US): 18,327
Subaru BRZ 2013 (US): 8,587
Nissan 370Z 2013 (US): 6,561
Mazda MX-5 2013 (US): 5,780
Toyota GT 86 2013 (Europe): 5,079
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2013 (Canada): 1,813
Subaru BRZ 2013 (Europe): 865
As you can see, the FR-S and BRZ sit at third and fourth respectively in total U.S. sales in 2013. Not “slow” at all, it would seem. Especially considering Scion projected yearly totals of “up to 20,000″ for 2013, and between “5,000-7,000″ for the BRZ — both of which were nearly met or exceeded (wardsauto.com). And through a partial sales year in 2012, the FR-S surpassed its projected figure of 10,000 by 1,417 (11,417 sales total).

The U.S. loves this car! I'm sure the sales in Asia have been equally strong. Europe rarely has ever responded to Japanese coupes en masse. So the fact that one of Toyota's Euro's design directors is down on the Subaru power train and would like a BMW diesel is no surprise.
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