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Originally Posted by Dadhawk
And there-in lies the problem with why you can't get a great car at a good price today, and what initially attracted me to the FR-S's promise of being a "basic" sports car. With the exception of the suspension, I don't consider any of this a necessity.
Heck, if I could get it with no TCS, manual windows and no radio, I would! Everybody says they want a back-to-basics car, but from what I can tell very few of us really do want it. Every gadget in a car costs money, whether its there because we want it, the government mandates it or the car company insists on it.
OK, climbing down off my soapbox now. Somebody get me a beer....
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Sounds like you want an FR-S then. I was replying to the previous comment that $28k for the limited trim was crazy.
You are one of a very very small group of people that would want a car with no radio and crank windows so you are always going to be SOL. I can understand not wanting the other features, but it is just a fact of life that your desires are pretty uncommon and therefore are going to fall on deaf ears.
You are correct though. The car manufacturers more than ever are forcing you to take options you don't want to get ones that you do. Honda started this a long time ago by not offering any options (just trim levels) and the latest company to jump into that game is VW. You used to be able to order a VW any way you wanted, but now if you want a sunroof you need navigation. If you don't want vinyl seats you need a sunroof which requires navigation...and the trend continues. All of a sudden you are looking at $6k in options to not get vinyl seats (it's no mistake they don't offer cloth either). It sucks from the consumer standpoint since we aren't really seeing the decrease in pricing that supposedly comes along with the streamlining of their production. The mfr is keeping it all as profit.