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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86
I think a lot of times the calculators is so off because the torque band is so different in all cars. I won't be surprised if this car doesn't hit 0-60 in low 6's or high 5's. But if it came with 200hp/180tq with a flat torque curve then I can easily believe high 5's and low 6's. The civic Si gain a lot of low end torque with the same output and it is slightly quicker in numbers than the last gen. It also feels better during daily driving because of the added mid range.
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This is a good point, although the torque number doesn't actually say anything...if the 180 ft-lb was a spike at low rpm due to a small turbo, sure, if it's just a fatter engine, then not really.
Without launching and just revving up from idle, this car could easily be slower than a 2.0L Civic Si despite the same horsepower and RWD, because VTEC gives a much better low rpm cam profile that allows it to make so so torque compared to the FA20 which is running a high rpm long duration cam which is absolutely horrible for low rpm torque. The dyno charts posted show a huge drop in torque, but they don't tell the whole story as they stop at 1500rpms or so. Below 1500, it should get even worse. At idle I'd be surprised if the car is even able to output half of its peak torque.
The moment you bring launching into the equation everything changes, because you can essentially bypass the shit-torque-range on this engine with a clutch dump, and possibly put more power down because the car is RWD (although lower center of gravity reduces the weight transfer to the rear and this car is still slightly front biased)