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Old 03-08-2012, 02:16 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by cyde01 View Post
yeah but practically all the sports cars built today are about power. the miata and now the frs are the ONLY sports cars not about power. they were designed to be different from the start, to buck the trend, they were advertised as such, targeted towards people that want to buck the trend.

if you are into torque, plain and simple: more cylinders than 4 is ideal for you. 4 cylinder engines are just not built for low or midrange, if you build a 4 cylinder for torque you sacrifice top end horsepower like in the ka24. so what you want is something with more cylinders, but you can't stick an engine with more cylinders in a lightweight compact car like the miata or the frs without using expensive materials like the 6 cylinder exige or evora.

if this car was built for torque and horsepower, it would be just like all the other sports cars on the market today. if horsepower is what you want, why not just buy what's already on sale now? the new z's lighter and more compact than the old one. the domestic pony cars are heavy but a good value as far as horsepower per dollar.

this car was built for balance, something that a select few find even more important than power to weight. and it was built for that small minority of people who "get it." the reason why it wasn't built for people who prioritize torque, power to weight, and power to dollar is because there are plenty of options on the market for people like that already!
Eh... yes and no.

Balance can be found and obtained without pushing into super car territory, or without sacrificing overall performance. Balance can be found at any performance level, high or low.

If you were take the FRS/BRZ, exactly how it is now but put the turbo charged version of the same engine making 280hp and a flat 250 ft/lbs torque curve in the car you *might* increase the curb weight by what 50lbs? Are you really going to sacrifice balance and handling just because it has more power? No.. you're not. Sure you will need some suspension tuning, increased mechanical grip, and better brakes, but nothing outrageous.

I had a great balance in my Supra when it was set up in road racing trim. It put 600hp to the tires, had a flat torque curve from 3000 rpm to 8000rpm and was an absolute joy to drive.
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