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Originally Posted by Boxer486
Lots of ways. Economies of scale for one. Prius tech costs continue to drop the more they sell as is evident in the Prius C cost ($19K). They already said the next gen hybrid powertrain could be up to 10-20% cheaper to make than the current one. $16K could be for a base non hybrid version, or $16k is just not accurate and is only a target. See what Ford and Mazda do with targets. Don't forget too that imports get hit with a nice fuck you Japan tariff that can add around $500, I doubt they include that in the price along with destination charges. Somewhere between $18.5-$23K seems doable once you cut through the BS.
As for sports car hybrids I assume you are asking in that price range, as the alternative makes it a ridiculous question (918, P1, LaStupido). Looking at precedent means nothing otherwise we'd all be riding horses. Besides, I said the precedent already exists, you just flip a Prius C around and reduce costs. Worse case is they make a cheaper CRZ and call it a sports car. Don't think that's on the itinerary though.
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as far as economies of scale goes, the prius c has sold over half a million units. i dont see this niche sports car approaching that in its entire life cycle let alone in the same span the c has been out. the mr2 retailed at 25k in its last year so i still dont see how combining them would some how be cheaper than each individual.
dont tell me to see what mazda and ford do when a)you later tell me that precedent means nothing and b)neither one of them has anything like what we are talking about. where are we going to reduce costs from the prius c? it already built on the cheapest platform toyota makes. things like independent rear suspension and disc brakes are going to increase the cost.
this to me is an even more absurd statement than when people were expecting a 250hp, 2000lb frs for 20k. it just isnt going to happen.