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Originally Posted by Corey
So you say the car's ability at a track isn't justification but you think daily driving is a good reason to have more power? Seriously? The power it has is far more than enough to pass someone on the highway and do double any speed limit I've ever seen in America, how could you possibly justify more power for daily driving? The fact that a very small number of them will see the track is precisely why it doesn't need more power. People like you don't need it regardless of how much you want it, and the majority of the people who do bring the car to a track do not have the driving ability to benefit from it, especially given how awful the stock tires are reputed to be. If you need to "wind it out to 6000 rpm to feel like [you're] in a sports car" then maybe this isn't the car for you, and you definitely shouldn't be driving like that on public streets anyway. There are plenty of affordable alternatives with more power if that's your thing. For better or worse though Toyota/Subaru is not designing or marketing this car to people looking for power with a 35k budget.
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I'm saying that the justification people are using that the car has enough power to extract all that it can from the chasis on grand touring tires at the track is not a good reason to not have more power.
A matter of needing more power vs wanting it is a little silly. No one needs this car. It does not fulfill anyones basic needs for transportation efficiently. Great gas mileage...no, good cargo capacity...no, efficient people mover...no. the car is a toy, a luxury to those who can afford it. Regardless of what people on this forum may think, they are not the primary target purchaser. Very few peple will own this as their only form of transportation. Its a second or third car so there is no reason to do it halfway. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask for a car with good handling and enough power to out accelerate an accord. This isn't a muscle car, never will be, and I don't want it to be. I don't need to drag race a mustang gt in this car.
Btw, more power is useful for a lot more things than reaching a higher top speed. The fact that it can double any speed limits is irrelevant. A corolla can also double most speed limits. Having more power (specifically torque) will significantly improve responsiveness in the 5-85 mph range and that could b used by everyone in their dd.
Edit: based on the number of curent miata owners in this forum (very few) I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in my opinions even within this group of enthusiasts. If people really wanted a car that had great dynamics but lacked sports car power they could have bought. Miata at any time in the last 20 years.
The car as released fills a nice spot in the market due to having 4 seats and a good entry price, but I still believe a version using the wrx motor will come and will greatly expand the appeal of this car to snag some 370z buyers and some people who may fall just short of a z4 or boxster.