[mikepaul21]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Losing power with after market pipes are like saying a pig can fly.

Any after market pipes I have seen are all about less restriction and less weight than the stock pipes. Because stock pipes have to cut cost, and maintain Federal mandatory.

For all that said, it is Illegal to drive a car without a Catalytic Converter, and the fine could be up to 5 years or 25,000 or both.

There are ways to get around it, there are people driving like that. But it is still against the law, and you will be screwed if you are involved in anything that will question the Authority.

For example, If you are involved in an accident, you had the rights of ways....the other party lawyer asked to inspect your car, and your car have no Catalytic converter, then it is against the law, that such car is banned from driving on the street. Therefore, everything will be against you....including Jail and Fine.

Do never risk it....for about 5-15 HP gains...you can gain as much if you drive alone, take out all the seats in your car, spare tires + Stereo system...etc...or even more, and still Legal

There is still a cat in the header. I just put the Invidia front pipe on my car, catless and non-resonated and I am extremely satisfied. I had the Perrin cat back non-resonated and really liked the sound but thought that it was still a little quiet and the invidia front pipe definitely woke up the sound a little bit. It isn't crazy but in my opinion just enough to satisfy.