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Old 01-08-2014, 02:39 PM   #58
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Originally Posted by trevorovert View Post
Wouldn't you think 2 cars would be relative?
You'd think so, but insurance companies feel otherwise. It's a possibility that Subaru owners in your district are shittier drivers than Scion owners due to age, sex, single, married, etc of who buys what.

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Originally Posted by oldpueblo View Post
True, however there is more than one way to mess with pricing. I once got "lower than MSRP" because the sales guy raised my trade-in price well above what even I felt was fair in order to clinch the sale. It's basically the same thing from the other direction and all that really matters at the end is how much you still owe on the new car. It's funny because if Subaru had done the same I'd have been in a BRZ Limited instead, but (in my specific case) Toyota was more flexible with the over-all financing for me. I prefer the FR-S front-end/side trim anyway, and didn't want a spoiler really, so that worked out. I really just wanted push to start.

We all have a BRZ and we all have an FR-S. Some even have a GT86 which is still a BRZ/FR-S and vice versa. They're all the same car. It's like if I buy a pair of shoes from one store and someone says why didn't you buy that exact same pair of shoes but with different laces from that other store? It's the same shoe. The only difference is the laces, store return policy, etc. The Monogram version moves the trim levels even closer to each other. None of these editions is better than the other, they are all made to fit different price points, preferences, etc.
Trade value is something that isn't consistent enough to really base the type of discount you get on a car. If everyone was getting an additional $1k to $1.5k on their trades towards a Scion, then we could have a better idea of what the discount is, but not everyone will be trading in a car and hence, not be eligible. It's extremely YMMV whereas BRZ prices can be had with standard negotiation.

Yeah, if anything, we now have a true 86 GT trim level, which is a GOOD thing. Hell, TRD parts are cheaper than STi parts for OEM+ lovers too!
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