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Old 01-01-2014, 04:35 AM   #102
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If it where that way, this car wouldn't be drift-able without the nannies, and it would't be faster without the nannies... and it does both quite successfully.

Did you not read my post? The reason why our car is very successful is because they did account for that 1%. Very well, actually. But the primary design still happens with an assumption that nannies will be engaged 99% of the driving time in these cars. I would feel safe assuming that even Toyota/Subaru track development may have had more nanny-on hours than nanny-off hours, or at least a lot closer than you probably think.

We know that track design was an integral and nearly primary focus for this car. But interviews with Tada-san/engineers clearly say that this is intended to be a car for "pure handling delight" from the factory, and a driver's car for drivers of many skill levels. Guess what the car comes with from the factory? Nannies. To think they didn't design around that is absurd. A brilliantly designed car can be designed around nannies without sacrificing track and non-nannied performance. That's the holy grail of sportscar design, and a major portion of the success of our car and the future success of the platform. It's what every sportscar designer/engineer today thrives to achieve.

You think they just threw nannies on there and called it good without any design consideration, expecting drivers and reviewers and consumers of all skill levels to give it such raving reviews and enjoy driving it?

No way, man. That's not how a commercial design process works. Not even close. And it certainly isn't how you build a successful car.

But there is no sense arguing with you, as you clearly have your mind set that engineers design the car completely, add nannies, then check the box and call it done without much more thought than that.

Silly.

EDIT: not to mention that I agree with you that ABS is a serious inhibitor for a highly skilled driver, and that I prefer driving without it in many situations. I'm just saying that your simplification of the design process is weak and inaccurate, and paints a totally incorrect picture of modern design processes.

I can agree to disagree - my original post in this thread specifically said "more power to you" if that's what you wanna do as long as you've made an accurate self-judgment of your personal driving skill, which it sounds like OP has.

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