I just found and read through this thread. Thanks for the laughs everyone.
FYI this (sensationally titled and presumptuous, but mostly spot on)
bmwblog article that was posted in the
E30 thread applies to many of the arguments here.
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Originally Posted by tree fingers
Progress is, essentially, re-creating a 90's BMW, and selling it for less? That's an interesting take on progress.
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Since the E30 M3 is awesome, and was 2-3X the price of the average car (while the FT86 will be cheaper than the average car), I'm fine with that sort of progress.
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Originally Posted by SVTSHC
I can't deal with you anymore. You're a judgemental extremist that refuses to see the "compromise" in anything outside your own ideals. You pretend as though there isn't anything practical out there past 3000lb's now THAT's "LUDICROUS". What about lightening an average weight car is Ludicrous? A car doesn't NEED to be 2400lbs to perform superbly, and frankly many people ENJOY high horsepower mid-weight vehicles. And truthfully I don't consider something a "pig" or overweight until it reaches higher than 3800lbs, and I honestly could give less of a f*** whether or not YOU agree with that statement. Adding you to the ignore list now, your mentality and narrowminded view of the automotive world angers me.
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That wasn't directed at me, but I think you're being a bit dramatic.
It's just a question of emphasis. Larger, heavier cars can be enjoyable, and it's understandable why many prioritize power and acceleration (more than low weight and feel). But every car is a compromise, and the FT86 doesn't make much sense for those people.
Overall, I agree with ZDan, and for my preferences even the FT86 is a tad hefty. If that makes me a narrow-minded extremist in your view, then you should add me to your ignore list as well.