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Old 02-21-2012, 12:33 AM   #1434
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Originally Posted by ZDan View Post
Yup. They're not out there. Plenty of oversized/overweight ones, though.

Feel/feedback is not related to handling? I guess I disagree here, but it depends on what you call "handling".


No, it's just a fact. Mass does isolate/insulate you from the experience. I never said or implied that all lightweight cars gave good feel/feedback, certainly you can give a lightweight car numb feel, which is why I mentioned "same/same". I.e., similarly developed similar purpose cars.

Light weight is a boon to feel/responsiveness in 20 lb/hp "momentum" cars as well as 6 lb/hp point and shoot cars.

All else equal, lighterweight cars give better feel/responsiveness, in my experience. For me, this is a fact.

I didn't say that and didn't mean to suggest it. No doubt about it, those cars put up excellent handling numbers. Stock vs. stock, they should post better handling numbers than the AS1.


Actually, it is. My RX-7 has less power than a Z06, but is ~5mph faster in the 1/4. And lighter-weight benefits cornering, braking, and in transitions as well. Ask an F1 pilot whether he'd rather have 10% more power or 10% less weight. But I'm not talking about outright performance, anyway, just feel/responsiveness.

I find it kinda ridiculous that there are next to no small/fun sports/sporty cars, but PLENTY of overwrought/overpriced/overweight "supercars". I think there should be a LOT more of the former.


I'm not saying that all great cars are lightweight. An M3 is a great car. But for me, it sacrifices WAY too much in the interests of being a luxurious and *expensive* car. I'd much rather have something smaller, simpler, and lighter-weight. Cheapness is also a welcome byproduct of simplicity
i think you are confusing coincidence with cause and effect. i dont think weight and feel are related to eachother but they both add to fun. thats why a car built for fun will have light weight and good feel. my msp has more feel than my miata so im sure that weight cant be used as an indicator for feel.
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