youngster brand doesn't equal cheaper insurance for most, if not all. It wasn't until i hit mid-twenties with a long clear record that my rates got low.
I want the FR-S, I like the styling of it a bit more and the cheaper the better.
I couldn't care less what someone else thought about me driving a scion and i am much closer to 30 then 20, lol. I have great friends much older who love their scions and have a great time modifying then hell out of them more then me, and seeing as i already have 2 that I have no complaints about, why not start up a collection? plus toyota/scion gives you a repeat customer discount haha!
I have driven a car with all the bells/whistles, push start, HIDs, auto climate control, proximity keys are all unnecessary, IMO. If it was terribly needed then it would be included. It was neat at first and when i didn't have it anymore, i didn't miss any of it.
Granted I want one of the Release Series that Scion will come out with and there is an excellent argument that I don't need any of that.
They are normally a great deal for the additions you get and you won't see many of them around, If I don't like it I will just get a regular one.
This is all assuming the msrp will be below $24k, much higher and i will not bother and go ahead with a Camaro SS, lol.
(I bet I am the only one in the world that has these 2 cars going up against each other their my mind, HA!)