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Originally Posted by Ashybone
I'm just going to go ahead and say it... Mini vans now at days are fuckin fast. Ever get a ride in a '13 Toyota Sienna? I did when I took my FR-S in for service and had to get a ride home... Shit changed ma life 
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Minvans also weigh a ton. A Sienna is close to 4500lbs. My 2013 Honda Odyssey is close to 4400lbs.
I can assure you my Odyssey is not faster than my BRZ. Yes, they have decent pickup for their weight, but consider the power to weight ratio. That Sienna almost weighs double but only has 66 more hp.
What the minivans do have is more torque. But owning both, I can tell you that if you get beat by a minivan it is only because you are not pushing your car hard enough. Especially when you consider most minivans typically have more people in them, and more stuff which adds to the weight issue. And if you thrown any type of turn into the mix forget about it.