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Old 12-02-2013, 09:20 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by Gopherboy6956 View Post
Well - i'm not going to lay out the physics on understeer and oversteer - that's what wikipedia is for. Understeer and oversteer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And Here's your explanation on how strut bars affect understeer, keeping in mind understeer is a direct effect of a stiff front end of the chassis:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+does+a+stru...ect+understeer

With my current setup, which is VERY close to neutral or even a little biased to understeer as is(because I'd rather keep it safe on the road course), this bar increases the tendency to of my vehicle to understeer.

If you add this bar ONLY to any car, it will either increase the amount of understeer or decrease the amount of oversteer to that vehicle. The vehicle's current setup will dictate the outcome - so like I said, on the stock BRZ which is biased towards oversteer, there will likely not be any major change - because the car will just end up being more neutral.

But, if you already have stiffer suspension components, a camber adjustment, or larger sway bars - the outcome could be noticeable - which it is for me.
here are my suggestion: before you try to get all cute with that google search, you look at the results. in the first two link, it says a strut bar eliminates weight transfer which shows they dont know what they are talking about. in the second link they imply that flex reduces grip so a strut bar would increase front end grip. its not hard to come to the conclusion that that means less understeer. they later go on to say a rear strut bar reduces understeer so i think that kinda shows they dont know what they are talking about. the rest of the links are just a bunch of forums that are typically having the same conversation we are having and coming to all sorts of random conclusion.

you are trying to convince me that somehow a strut tower bar generates understeer. i have a suspicion that you have been avoiding giving me an explanation because you dont understand the topic at hand. if im wrong im sorry but i would love to hear your reasioning.
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