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Old 11-30-2013, 10:13 PM   #223
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Originally Posted by dwx View Post
What's the point of this post? I reported it to the mods as product bashing, because I can't seem to find any reasonable discussion point in it. Of course it doesn't matter what people tune with, tuners can create crappy tunes, but adding the bit about recouping Ecutek license fees crossed the line...

I hope that was somehow an em-powering experience for you...

Shiv speaks to the main problem with the ECUTek Experience, and the reason alot of the tuners I have spoken with are so Excited about the OFT and ECUflash developments, They cannot provide a service to their customers at a reasonable price point because the "product" they use to tune eats up most of the price point, Tuners (usually) don't want all of your money, they want to provide a good service at a fair price, and with the exceedingly high price point ECUTek demands, that means they have to work for peanuts if they are to spend the amount of time necessary to properly tune each customer's car. I know of one tuner local to me who is a "ECUTek Master tuner" who won't tune a BRZ/FRS if it is N/A simply because the cost to the customer to do so is unfair, he is one of the Tuners who want to be able to be proud of every tune he sells. Not sell a thousand tunes and hope they all kinda work OK.

Shiv in no way bashed the product's capabilities, clarifying that it is an issue of the tuner not the software that caused the drivability issues, since no tuners were named or blamed for the haphazard tuning, I believe his post stands as a true warning to what type of tuning experience you should seek to avoid.

I can think of no-better place to air such concerns than a Thread which has the attention of ECUTek themselves, when we are on the (eternal) cusp of some large announcement. It is only fair that the people who run the company know (honestly) what the single largest complaint from their own "master tuners" is... and no you won't hear (publicly) any of the "Master Tuners" say this, as they have business interests to protect and currently, ECUTek is the most stable and available platform for tuning our beloved cars.

If ECUTek really wants to support and not feed off our community they will bring the pricepoint down to a level that is feasible for the offerings of the product, show some appreciation for the people selling and tuning the product, and hopefully, rethink their current assignment of the label "Master Tuner" to any haphazard SCHMUCK that can muster up enough money for the initial buy-in...

Report away, I'm not a vendor...just a run of the mill troll.
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