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MikeW · 11-19-2013, 12:03 AM

I don't think its fair to judge a new car design when its presented like a cartoon as in most of the depiction on this thread. There is no context but white pages of text, no lighting, no paint reflectivity, in fact I don't even get the sense those are real cars. Maybe they are but if so they have been so overly photo shopped as to make them bland and listless. So I agree the new WRX looks poor in these depictions, but wait until we see it on a cloudy day over wet asphalt with truss work and old buildings behind it. Also, that color is hideous.

Regarding the questions I can respond with some personal knowledge about the 2013 BRZ vs. the 2013 WRX. I've owned both for most of this year and just dumped the BRZ. I love the BRZ, I really really do. But the issue I have with it is that the thing is too damn hard to get in and out of. I've owned three Miata's since 1991 and one as recently as this year before I traded it for the BRZ. The Miata never annoyed me as much as the BRZ, maybe it was the extra bolstering, or maybe I always had the top down on the Miata and didn't notice. But I'm six foot 200 pounds and the BRZ was just enough of a bitch to mount and dismount that I always found myself driving the WRX or even my E30. I dunno, maybe i'm just no into cars, but for as little as I ended up driving the car it wasn't worth insuring and watching the value depreciate while sitting in the garage. In the end the WRX hatchback is the car for me, practical and a blast to knock around hard. Sure, it rolls more and doesn't hug the clover leaf the same, but when I'm trying to get to work in the morning and thinking about twenty things unrelated to cars the BRZ just didn't call my name loud enough. Now if my alternative was an Accord or Camry I'm sure this rant would have a different ending…

I also have a four year old daughter so consider that as well. But I only have her three days a week and even on the off days I still found that the BRZ stayed in one place most of the time.

I dunno, I can see the BRZ being a decent daily for some people. If my commute involved a thirty minute sprint through a mountain pass I would probably still be on board with the BRZ, so that's another factor. The lack of decent roads in Southern Louisiana is no small factor. So lots of things play into my experience, and everyone is different. I can't even tell you definitively why I never drove the BRZ, but I have the data and acted accordingly.

Good luck to everyone and long live BRZ!!!

11-19-2013, 12:03 AM	#60
MikeW Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ \| 2013 WRX \| 1991 318i Location: New Orleans Posts: 68 Thanks: 6 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't think its fair to judge a new car design when its presented like a cartoon as in most of the depiction on this thread. There is no context but white pages of text, no lighting, no paint reflectivity, in fact I don't even get the sense those are real cars. Maybe they are but if so they have been so overly photo shopped as to make them bland and listless. So I agree the new WRX looks poor in these depictions, but wait until we see it on a cloudy day over wet asphalt with truss work and old buildings behind it. Also, that color is hideous. Regarding the questions I can respond with some personal knowledge about the 2013 BRZ vs. the 2013 WRX. I've owned both for most of this year and just dumped the BRZ. I love the BRZ, I really really do. But the issue I have with it is that the thing is too damn hard to get in and out of. I've owned three Miata's since 1991 and one as recently as this year before I traded it for the BRZ. The Miata never annoyed me as much as the BRZ, maybe it was the extra bolstering, or maybe I always had the top down on the Miata and didn't notice. But I'm six foot 200 pounds and the BRZ was just enough of a bitch to mount and dismount that I always found myself driving the WRX or even my E30. I dunno, maybe i'm just no into cars, but for as little as I ended up driving the car it wasn't worth insuring and watching the value depreciate while sitting in the garage. In the end the WRX hatchback is the car for me, practical and a blast to knock around hard. Sure, it rolls more and doesn't hug the clover leaf the same, but when I'm trying to get to work in the morning and thinking about twenty things unrelated to cars the BRZ just didn't call my name loud enough. Now if my alternative was an Accord or Camry I'm sure this rant would have a different ending… I also have a four year old daughter so consider that as well. But I only have her three days a week and even on the off days I still found that the BRZ stayed in one place most of the time. I dunno, I can see the BRZ being a decent daily for some people. If my commute involved a thirty minute sprint through a mountain pass I would probably still be on board with the BRZ, so that's another factor. The lack of decent roads in Southern Louisiana is no small factor. So lots of things play into my experience, and everyone is different. I can't even tell you definitively why I never drove the BRZ, but I have the data and acted accordingly. Good luck to everyone and long live BRZ!!!