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Originally Posted by Hanni_0176

Are people really that spoiled with the last few years of cars that everyone has forgotten what cars were like before that? Just as a benchmark, the 2005-2009 V6 Mustang has similar 0-60 and 1/4 times as the FT86 (MT) does, and thats with a 4.0L... and the 1999-2004 V6 Mustang? It's way slower.

Since when has 14.9 in the 1/4 and a 0-60 of 6.6, for a stock car, been slow? Is our cars fast? No. But that doesn't mean our cars are slow. 200 hp and 151 ft/lbs on a 2758 lb car is impressive for what it is, if you ask me. And what it is, is a $24,500 sports car.

Our cars are outclassed in the hp/tq, 1/4, 0-60 numbers of other brand new sports cars at a similar price range. I get that. And we're not even going to hang with a brand new V6 Camry at a stop light, true. But seriously... do you all live in rich neighborhoods where everyone you know and everyone driving on the road are all driving brand new cars? I know the economy in Northeastern Ohio is probably worse than most areas of the country, but the majority of the cars I see in the road around here are more than 3 years old, and most of them are older than that... and I'm the only one who has a new car, within the circle of friends and family that I know personally.

All I've done to my car so far is drop in a K&N Air Filter and flash my ECU with the OFT (v1.33). For daily driving, my car is more than fast enough. I get wheel spin anytime I go WOT in 1st gear. 1st gear and 2nd gear are very short with WOT to redline, and after I shift into 3rd, I'm already over 60 mph. The fastest legal speed limit here is 70 mph on the interstate, and I'm pretty sure that going faster than 85 mph is considered reckless driving by the police.

I can totally dig the complaints coming from non-FT86 owners. They see the stat sheet, and our numbers are not as impressive as other cars on the market (aside from weight). What I don't understand, is the complaints coming from FT86 drivers. Did you all come from high power cars like Corvette's or something?

I feel like Takumi everytime someone says our car is slow. "What?! That's the fastest car down Mt. Akina? But it's just an eight six!"

(the Takumi reference was a metaphor for our cars being considered the underdog, fwiw)

i think the torque dip has a lot to do with it. by todays standards, its slow. its not fast for the money either as pretty much every other 24500 sports car is faster. i own one and it feels slower than my msp (heavier and less hp) which has a much nicer looking torque curve. i think that anybody who tries to say the car is too slow for pedestrian driving is a crazy but its a far cry from being fast by the standards we use today.