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Originally Posted by unknown_370

As a 370z owner and having tracked my car I would say the brake issue has been greatly overaggerated. It takes a lot for me to cook my brakes and you can feel the gradual fading of the brake over time. It tells you when you are pushing it. Either C & D now have amateur drivers or were looking for a failure.
I don't know about you guys but there are a few things I do to a stock factory bought car before tracking it...
1. Upgrade brake fluid. (Not done by C&D)
2. Upgrade brake lines. ( " )
3. Use track rotors... ( also not done)

The brake failure was there own fault because Nissan never called them track brakes. They were called sport brakes. C&D made that assumption and of all the cars that hit the track only C&D had that problem. Pointing out the brake failure on the Z is like never getting in a car again because you saw an accident happen once. Nissan brake calipers are track-capable, which means with a line, pad. Rotor and fluid change... they are good to go.
The oil issue is legit but a $500 oil cooler fixes that problem. It costs less than 2k to get the Z fully track ready. With 1.01g of grip and 13.1 second quarters for the auto and 13.3 for the manual. Its a hard handling car. Also it doesn't start @ $35k like someone posted. It starts at 32k. It intro'd @29.9 k. The Z has many breakthrough technologies and SRM (sequential rev-match) is only found on the sport pkg and can be shut off.

The FR-S is an awesome car. Designed beautifully, perfect balance and weight. I do feel the car is underpowered, but moreso in torque than HP. In a perfect world the FR-S would have been a solid 240hp/240lb-tq. But then again I wish my Z had 310lb-tq. We always want more... I wish both Z and FR-S had turbo options.. just because an aftermarket well made turbo kit will cost over 15k and I'm a power nut. I also love handling. I know the FR-S will be just as or more balanced than the almighty Miata...

In reality, the Z and the FR-S are no comparison. I'm not saying one is better than the other. But the Z is giving you sports car handling and balance mixed with brute muscle. When you mix the 2 you don't get 100% of either. The Z won't be as nimble as an FR-S and as fast as a mustang. If it did? I'm sure it would cost 6 figures.

The FR-S is awesome... but I love my Z. I wouldn't mind buying the FR-S as a second car daily driver. Save money on gas and have loads of fun in the corners while going to work. In a perfect world. The Z WOULD BE one of many sports cars I would own. The FR-S would also be on that list.

Sorry, but the 370z brake issue is extremely well known by multiple publications as well as the community AND Nissan itself, as is the engine oil overheating problem. The 370z is the only vehicle that Car and Driver has ever had that did that during their lightning lap event....and it was the Nismo version. Not even a heavy Mustang GT that cost considerably less had anything approaching that level of fade.

Multiple publications have noted the issues, and Car and Driver went so far as to do a full follow up article testing different brake pads and fluids with the 370z to figure out exactly what had happened.

You've replaced the rotors, pads, brake fluid, etc, so of course you're not having the issues. The point is, they marketed a sports car that, in stock form, wasn't really safe for a basic track day. I have an issue with a company that would do that. Brake fade is fine...catastrophic loss of braking ability due to heat generation that's double the normal amount due to a design that extremely limits air-flow to the brakes...yeah that's not ok.