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Originally Posted by Maxim
*looks at ur profile*
You drive an S2000......
If that's not accurate and you are now in a 370z, there's WELL documented issues with the brakes, including with upgraded pads activating the "ice-mode" ABS. All the forums I've looked through harp on it and many members urge people looking to track the car to be very careful or to not track it until the required upgrades are done. Even with high performance pads and brake fluid people are still experiencing extreme amounts of fade, far far greater than should be experienced on a performance car.
*shrug* I can only go by what I read from the people who own them. I know I would track the thing and once I got enough time in the car to actually be fast with it, it would be a major issue.
The data from Car and Driver frankly frightens me...the tests they did showed how much higher the temperatures are than normal.....yeah, just not for me.
As for the engine oil issue, it would not surprise me at all if the VVEL was the cause. The VQ series of engines came out a lonnngggggg time ago, and if it wasn't designed around that system to begin with (I don't know if it was, not familiar enough with the engine family), adding it in the interest of more power could understandably cause issues.
The other issue is there's just no airflow, to the front brakes or the engine compartment. There's a reason cold-air intakes have such a big benefit on the 370z  |
As a 370z owner and having tracked my car I would say the brake issue has been greatly overaggerated. It takes a lot for me to cook my brakes and you can feel the gradual fading of the brake over time. It tells you when you are pushing it. Either C & D now have amateur drivers or were looking for a failure.
I don't know about you guys but there are a few things I do to a stock factory bought car before tracking it...
1. Upgrade brake fluid. (Not done by C&D)
2. Upgrade brake lines. ( " )
3. Use track rotors... ( also not done)
The brake failure was there own fault because Nissan never called them track brakes. They were called sport brakes. C&D made that assumption and of all the cars that hit the track only C&D had that problem. Pointing out the brake failure on the Z is like never getting in a car again because you saw an accident happen once. Nissan brake calipers are track-capable, which means with a line, pad. Rotor and fluid change... they are good to go.
The oil issue is legit but a $500 oil cooler fixes that problem. It costs less than 2k to get the Z fully track ready. With 1.01g of grip and 13.1 second quarters for the auto and 13.3 for the manual. Its a hard handling car. Also it doesn't start @ $35k like someone posted. It starts at 32k. It intro'd @29.9 k. The Z has many breakthrough technologies and SRM (sequential rev-match) is only found on the sport pkg and can be shut off.
The FR-S is an awesome car. Designed beautifully, perfect balance and weight. I do feel the car is underpowered, but moreso in torque than HP. In a perfect world the FR-S would have been a solid 240hp/240lb-tq. But then again I wish my Z had 310lb-tq. We always want more... I wish both Z and FR-S had turbo options.. just because an aftermarket well made turbo kit will cost over 15k and I'm a power nut. I also love handling. I know the FR-S will be just as or more balanced than the almighty Miata...
In reality, the Z and the FR-S are no comparison. I'm not saying one is better than the other. But the Z is giving you sports car handling and balance mixed with brute muscle. When you mix the 2 you don't get 100% of either. The Z won't be as nimble as an FR-S and as fast as a mustang. If it did? I'm sure it would cost 6 figures.
The FR-S is awesome... but I love my Z. I wouldn't mind buying the FR-S as a second car daily driver. Save money on gas and have loads of fun in the corners while going to work. In a perfect world. The Z WOULD BE one of many sports cars I would own. The FR-S would also be on that list.