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Originally Posted by SlickRick
Hmm interesting.. then in this regard.. the FRS in my OP would be considered a super clearance sale!
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Sure, their base price for the car is fine. The whole point of them doing that was to make you believe you are getting a good deal while they quintuple charge you for the TT&L.
Just have them itemize every single charge, and point out to them the absurdity of the T&L + DOC + whatever. We already know exactly down to the penny what your tax is.
One of the guys posted a link showing weight based registration...I've never heard of this nor has anything like it ever been on any paperwork for any car I've bought. My T&L has always been around $90-125 combined, clearly listed on the paperwork. With $0-125 worth of extras no one has to pay.
For example, mine shows:
License and/or Registration - $62.25
Certificate of Title - $33.00
Other Taxes - $5.00 (misc bullshit)
Deputy Service Fee - $5.00 (misc bullshit)
Vehicle Inspection Fee - $23.75 (part of the 2 year sticker)
We are at $129 for T&L before the below bullshit is added:
DOC Fee - $50 (don't have to pay, they don't have to sell)
Dealer Inventory Tax - $56.38 (don't have to pay, they don't have to sell)
That's $235.38 for Title, License, DOC, and the various other bullshit fees nobody has to pay, but often do for several reasons. I paid them because the car was selling fast at the time, take it or leave it.
If there had been 5-10 FR-S in my color and transmission choice, I would have simply told them to pound sand on the DOC and Vehicle Inventory Tax(VIT) and saved $106. That's wasn't enough extra bullshit to make me walk away and wait months for stock to fill up rather than them selling within 24 hours of arriving at the dealership. I also get a car that had 8 miles on the ODO, no test driving by kids. That was worth the $106.
Assuming the article talking about weight based registration is correct, your T&L shouldn't be much different from mine($129) before adding that $225 the article talked about. So that's gives us roughly $354 not counting DOC and the various other bullshit fees.
So, taking the $1523.06 number I came up with from my previous post(diff between base car + tax from the OTD), and subtracting the aprox. $354 for your T&L + weight regis fee shows them padding the deal by almost $1200. That means the very attractive $24,899 base price they showed you is actually closer to $26,000 if you correctly add the 6% tax and only the correct priced T&L to come to their OTD price.
New deal for them:
$24899 base car
$1847.94 Tax
$354 T&L + weight registration
Total so far - $26,746.94 offer $26,750 OTD.
If they absolutely refuse to budge on the DOC fee, and you don't feel like shopping around at more dealerships, then pay no more than $200 for the DOC which seems to be common in Florida, leaving an additional $50 for misc stonewalling by them for a grand total of $27,000 OTD.
Offer $26,750 OTD but don't go higher than $27,000 OTD.