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Originally Posted by regal
But for someone who just wants a moderate kit like base innovate, avo, or greddy, ~ 225whp, the license/cable/tune end up adding 25% to the cost.
If these cars are so complicated to tune that a 225 whp kit requires bypassing stock logic and EcuTeck then it cuts off a lot of potential customers.
Maybe I'm wrong but those who buy an Innovate kit with their carb 210hp base-map are paying for more than they need with the Ecutek.
I totally get the need for a $900 tune+ tuning equipment on those pushing 270+hp, but at some point someone is going to sell a ~225 hp kit with a free base map. Probably for $3500 done deal. Its a business model and market segment that this platform needs. Like Flying Miata's $3k kit?
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i'm not aware of anything that's happened with the miata scene since mid-2006 or so, but i know back then (and for a decade or so prior), flyin' miata has provided base maps (no remote tuning) with their nemesis systems (and others prior to it) and people love them. they've logged literally millions of trouble-free miles on untouched, conservative base maps. there's no reason at all why the people selling forced induction for the 86 couldn't do the same and provide an all-inclusive package without the added cost of a license and the expectation of custom tuning.
the 'gotta have it custom tuned' attitude doesn't really exist where there aren't convenient options for it, and people don't seem to care much. certainly they're not popping engines left and right. they're not making every last hp they possibly could, but for most people that isn't the point. they want a good value on a safe bump in power.