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Originally Posted by danjros
I got an out the door quote for one of the $22494 listed cars. Here it is:
MSRP 25,494
ePrice 22,494
Freight 895
PDI fee 425
Doc fee 200
MVA tag/title 279
MD 6% tax 1,457.59
TOTAL 25,750.59
PDI??-- this is the first time I have seen this fee listed out of all of the quotes I have gotten. MD has a max of $200 doc fee, but apparently you can add in other fees and they end up being close to the VA doc fees anyway.
Also, that freight is $200 more than listed on the Scion website which is $755.
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A DOC fee of $200 is absurd but may be normal for your area. Technically you don't have to pay a penny of this. On the flip side, they don't have to sell you the car.
The PDI fee is straight up bullshit. PDI means "pre delivery inspection" and you do not pay for this, it's their job.
Lastly, $279 for Title and License? Lol, how about $90-$125 on average. You get one of those every year(registration) and you know it's around $70 or less, which leaves the rest for the Title which sure as hell doesn't make up the remaining $200 they are asking for. Titling is less than $30.
Oh yea, freight charges vary by regional area, but I've never see it more than a $30 difference. They are adding even more here. Basically, they taking back some of the discount you thought they were giving you.
I'd offer them $25000 based on the numbers they provided and removing the ones I suggested.
$22,494 car base price
$755 delivery(show them Scion website says $755 for your region). Allthough website also says Scion can make profit here...CAN not must.
$200 doc fee(sounds like you live in a shitty state)
0$ for the PDI(tell them NO, it's your job to do this)
$100 Title & Registration.
6% tax.
$24961.94 is the total. Round it to an even $25k. That's about $2k off what a 2013 would have cost you at full MSRP. If they refuse to take the $25k offer, at the very least remove the PDI fee. $25,325ish would still be a good deal.