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Old 10-21-2013, 06:45 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post
Once again you are full of shit, as usual. Yes adding 350lbs and tipping scales at 2500 is called getting fat for a Miata. But than you for the opportunity to publicly correct you again as it apparently is my second job or something.

Curbweight per MazdaUSA: http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=MX5


2480-2511 (MT/softop), 2593 (MT/hardtop); 52/48 F/R (FRS = 53/47)


Lighter production currently produced 'sports' cars:




Lotus Elise
Lotus Exige
Alfa 4C

BAC Mono
Ariel Atom
Caterham

KTM XBow
Minicooper hardtop (2535lbs)


Include out of production cars and the list is huge.


Points:
1-There are many cars in production and out of production that way less than the Miata.
2-The fact that a Miata now weighs as much as a MiniCooper tells you Mazda kept up the trend of adding weight no different from anyone else.
3-Mazda changing direction now to shave off 300lbs tells us they knew the Miata had gotten too fat. Except in Fatoni's alternate universe where Mazda leads the wayand revolutionized lightweight sports cars unlike Lotus and all the original British roadsters the Miata was based upon decades later. Fatoni simply lives in a fantasy universe apart from Mazda and the rest of us.
4-Fatoni wants to construct a false debate or comparison between a Miata and GT86 simply because he's a forum troll and wants to distract us from the original argument presented by the OP and the rest of the contributors. This is called a red herring and is used to deflect by someone losing an argument.


To answer your implied question. Yes I think the GT86 is too fat by 200 lbs for my tastes. However, it is a GT coupe, not a roadster/convert and it also comes in at more than 400lbs lighter than all it's class competitors which bucks the weight gain trend.


A trend which Mazda acknowledges, has participated in knowingly, and has yet to rectify till 2015 as far as can be seen. Toyobaru is the only major manufacturer who recently has clearly made a commitment to go the other direction and actually released a tangible product for sale that bucks the overweight trend. Even the new Corvette gained weight.
that 350lbs is over 24 years of production. like i said, if you can name a single car that has even come close to only gaining that much i would love to hear it.

for someone who brought up all the safety regulations in the us, i was hoping you would mention at least one production car that was sold here. also, 2480 is lighter than 2535.

what product did toyota put out that showed a commitment to losing weight?
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