Thread: Frs vs s2000
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:20 AM   #679
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Originally Posted by CSG David View Post
Some update on personal impressions of the BRZ/FRS and the S2000.

The S2000 is a constant. It's built at a very high level with high level goals, but no car can fight father time. The car is older technology, but that engine and transmission are just works of mechanical art. You simply don't see a 120hp/L from a 2.0L very often. Although the 2.2L is not rated as high, a simple test pipe and tune puts it close to the 120hp/L mark already.

The BRZ/FRS is a very forgiving and safe car. The limits are set in stages which is absolutely outstanding. This car tailors to those who want a sense of sportiness, those who have a level of driving prowess, and those who are abusers. In all sense, it tailors to these crowds incredibly well. The car is simply modular. The base compliments are made to be practical and can be swapped out instantly without issue which can produce simple gains to the vehicle. The engineers have done a fantastic job incorporating the tuning market in this aspect.

The BRZ/FRS also has a very good OEM sitting position and good steering feel (much improved with the bushings). Aero is balanced and suspension works surprisingly well for what it is. The brakes have immense capacity when paired with the right pads and fluid. The base setup is fast and easy to drive/control. A simple bolt on with great coilovers just raises the limit of the car's potential. The car also controls added power well with the proper setup. The car can be set up for drift and/or grip fairly readily.

Overall, the BRZ/FRS is a driver and tuner car, which was Toyota's and Subaru's design intent and goal of introducing an affordable sports car. It inspires owners to personalize and improve driving ability. The S2000 is fine wine and those who have had the chance drive them, have a profound appreciation for the car.
Up until yesterday I wouldn't of fully understood this as I do now. Yesterday was my first track event bone stock I was faster than a lot of cars I didn't think I would be. But there were 2 sti and 2 s2ks I really wanted to compete with but they were heavily modded. All 4 had wheels suspension work and fi. Even with those mods I was just trailing 4seconds on a minute course at my first event bone stock when 3 out of the 4 have dozens of event done. All I could think was with sticker tires and maybe coilovers (obviously not a good driver but learning hahA) I could cut my time by atleast 2 seconds. This event made me event made me realize all the people rushing turbos maybe doing it in the wrong order.
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