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Old 10-20-2013, 10:55 PM   #12
chrisl
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Originally Posted by Canehda View Post
Yeah, not making that mistake again! I'm used to a Quattro Audi A3 that doesn't allow ANY slip even when in sport+ so you should have seen my face when I started to spin on a ramp doing less than 20km/h... I'll admit the rain was quite heavy but I was pretty surprised how easily the rear end let go!

On a quick side note, are the OEM tires a good rain tire compared to something like a Pilot Supersport?

I run PSSs on my Cayman, and they have a shockingly large amount of grip in the rain. From everything I've heard about the stock tires on the 86, I very much doubt that they're anywhere close (and I don't think you would ever have the slightest bit of trouble on a ramp at 20kph on PSSs). If you want a ton of grip in every possible road condition that can happen above 40F (5C or so), the Pilot Super Sports are amazing tires - they definitely are not just for dry roads.

As for the traction control, that's disappointing to learn about the Audi. I like a traction control system that has several levels, and which allows a bit of slip in sport mode. My Cayman allows for a fair amount of slip in sport mode, and I know BMW is similar (even on the x drive models - I've driven an F30 335i Xdrive a couple of times, and it definitely lets the rear end step out in sport+). I haven't had a chance to drive an Audi all that much in a sporty manner though, so I'm not as familiar with them.
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