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Originally Posted by old greg
Load wrt. time has a lot more to do with damping ratio and roll inertia than with spring rates (unless your springs are soft enough that you are hitting the bump stops).
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Right - Toyota went ahead and said that they're running higher damping, not just softer springs. That higher damping means the suspension is allowing less time for the energy to be absorbed, which sounds like a pretty good candidate for why it would oversteer, especially since Subaru said that Toyota is running softer than them in the front.
That's why I've been going crazy attempting to explain what I'm getting at...there's a conflict between the issue of softer springs and higher damping. Two different things happening at the same time - the springs can be used to help adjust the balance front to rear, but an increase in damping is going to result in more violent energy transfer which can definitely result in oversteer, if the front is tuned less aggressively than the rear. And it looks like that's how Toyota accomplished the slight oversteer bias vs Subaru.
And that's why I think the Subaru will be just a tick faster - I think the oversteer was intentionally tuned in by Toyota to give it a more playful feel. They're much more enthusiastic about the whole drift thing than Subaru is.
I'm just bad at trying to put it all in one thought haha.