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Originally Posted by ABR
I'm hoping that $6700 is your cash in hand, after the lien/loan is taken care of, otherwise if I had the dealer offer me only $6700 total for a still financed car still under drivetrain warranty i would be FURIOUS. They just want to get rid of you, I would hold their feet to the fire and force them to hand you a functioning FR-S, either with a check for the replacement cost, or replacing every damn part on the car.
have you gone up the chain with scion/toyota on this? I would start calling numbers and complaining to everyone until I found someone that would hand me another car.
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Yes, that is cash in hand after Toyota pays off the loan. Just so you know, this is way above dealer level at this point and I am dealing directly with Toyota on this.
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Originally Posted by FRS86edition#3
YOU ARE IN THE DRIVERS SEAT!!I recently gave a subpar survey on my local dealership on the "pushy sales tactics" question and received a call from the Chicago regional manager literally 20 minutes later. Scion re-invented its name by releasing the FR-S. This forum has more weight than many think. If you have a shitty experience with Scion NOT giving into your demands on a defective car, what does that do for their customer service reputation? Literally, its completely up to what makes you the happiest. Personally, I love my FR-S and wouldn't trade it for anything aside from a car worth substantially more than mine. If they won't work with you, I would threaten to take the $6700 and put it down on a Mustang, Camaro, or Challenger(even if you don't want any of these). I work in sales and lying is pretty standard in our business. Beat them up for as much as you can possibly get away with. Tell them you want a stock FR-S (lava) for substantially under sticker price. If they tell you its a "set price" or some bullshit, tell them to pound sand and walk out. If they don't call you as soon as you leave and adhere to your demands, then you know they didn't want your business anyway. However, I am fairly certain after a circumstance such as yours, that they will likely do (within moderate discretion) anything you want. Whether that be a Lava stock FR-S way under sticker or a series 10 for cheap. I was in a similar situation before I bought my FR-S. I was close to having my school loan debt and other debt paid off. That is the "responsible" route, but what is fun about that? Have fun while your young enough to enjoy the FR-S. I certainly can't imagine getting in and out of a small, low sports car when I'm 50+....
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Unless they can get me a Hot Lava with the HID headlights, push button start, Bespoke sound system, and automatic climate control for less than $400/month, I'm going with the beater option.
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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise
Do you mind giving some details on the engine failure? I know you had logged some detonation on the stock tune, but thought that had been resolved. Thx.
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Meh, it's a long story that I typed up and accidentally hit the back button so I lost it all. I don't really feel like typing it up again, but the short version is this: rod knock->short block replaced->more knocking sounds->another short block, cams, cam towers, and other miscellaneous engine parts->still makes knocking sound->still at the dealer and they can't figure it out 3 months later.
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Originally Posted by NWFRS
I think it depends on how bothered you are by your debt. Does your debt make you feel uncomfortable? Is that feeling sustainable? Do you have plans to buy a house? Are you firmly set on a career path that will get you out of debt without making you miserable? An inexpensive car doesn't need to be a beater. I've had a 1971 Celica ST coupe, '74 Celica GT coupe, a 77' ST coupe, a '77 GT liftback, a '70 Fiat 124 Sport Spider and a '92 MR2. All of them were bone stock and clean, with no rust, and the most expensive of the bunch was WELL within the budget you're talking about. Maintenance and performance upgrades were cheap and fun. They were all smile machines on a budget. Lots of little up-and-coming classics out there to make life interesting until you snag another FR-S. :-)
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I'm not terribly bothered by the debt that I have. I own a home, so I'm covered there. My job is decent and I make OK money. I'm way overdue for a raise though and hopefully that'll be coming up in November or so. I recently got promoted, but no raise.
The whole reason I decided to get a new car was I've had my share of used, inexpensive sports cars that turned out to be money pits: an '88 Mitsubishi Cordia Turbo with an unrepairable fuel leak and an '03 Subaru WRX Wagon that sheared 2nd gear. Basically, when it comes to cars you have three things: fast, cheap, reliable: pick two. I would go for the cheap and reliable for a beater. Like $2,300 for a '96 Geo Metro in excellent condition.