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Originally Posted by Kunzite

I guess even a terribly wrong things can be done "right" (i.e. to succeed in breaking a perfectly working car).
But to make a terribly wrong thing right, I'd guess you'll have to do like those folks:

Originally Posted by old greg

I can't speak for anyone else but to me, yeah, it is. The wheels/alignment/ride height of any of those cars looks as stupid and "trendy" to me as a massive wing and neons on an EK civic.

To each his own.

Originally Posted by 86'd

I guess:

1. It looks too much like the Mini-truck, low riders, I grew up with in SoCal which I never cared for.

2. I'm already 30, starting a family, and I don't want to look like a "cool" 18 year old. I want to look like an adult.

3. It looks to be impractical as hell.

4. The question of, can it be done right is mute. I'm sure 70% of people lowering their cars either cut the springs anyway or put them over blown shocks, so I'm sure people who go the "extra mile" and are into the "hellaflush" scene are ricers by default. I'm sure they don't bother to set a correct camber and toe and just cruise around wondering why their tires are always bald. The ones that "do it right" are probably .0001% and I could care less what that percentage does.

All I want is a clean drop to get rid of most of the wheel well, doesn't scrape, and retains most of a car's handling characteristics.

Anything more than that is just an attempt to fit in to a sub-subculture, to make as a hobby, and to try to stand out. Those sorts of behaviors are again, relegated to people under the age of 25.

And that's fine, but it certainly isn't for me.

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

I'm not sure what I'd call those, but they are fugly for sure IMO. If I ever do that to my car I give everyone here permission to shoot me in the head.

I guess I'm the minority here. I wouldn't slam my FR-S and put 18x11's like the whole stance scene but I think some of them look cool. My driveway is way too steep for something like that but I do plan to lower it.

The "frog look" (the term it was called when I hang out up in the Bay Area as a kid) has been here since the 80's and it's more common now that rebarrelling is available, a machine to roll the fenders evenly, more available offsets etc.

To me, I like all cars when they are done right; ol skool imports, 90's imports, ol skool classic Chevy's especially a '66 Nova! Not all of the hellaflush run cut springs and most of them run coilovers and air ride suspension.