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Old 09-25-2013, 01:45 PM   #202
Luis_GT
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Originally Posted by TomWalton View Post
At the risk of repeating the obvious:

You're driving a car that was *designed* to oversteer/slide *at low speeds on dry pavement* with TC/VSC turned off. We've all seen Clarkson slide at 30 mph while reading a book. That's great fun under controlled conditions where you won't kill yourself or anyone else when you lose it. Its foolish and irresponsible to drive it that way in traffic on public highways in bad weather.

And once more:

Your entire driving history and general awesomeness are meaningless in traffic on a wet road at 70 miles an hour. The car's momentum and kinetic energy are enormous at that speed, and we know the rear end likes to come out. You're *not physically capable* of recovering from an unintended slide caused by some idiot in a Corolla cutting you off, making you jerk the wheel; you simply can't react fast enough, and the car *will* want to oversteer. You also can't avoid careening into the mom/baby in the next lane over. The VSC is your only hope. Physics, mechanics, you know.. engineer stuff.

On the track, go for it. There's a consensually shared risk among the drivers, fewer cars, and (one hopes) more skilled drivers.

Of course, you'll do what you like. What's puzzling is that you should be able to work this out yourself. Don't design any bridges.
DD'ing this car, I haven't noticed it's oversteering characteristic, probably cause it takes more to get the FR-S to slide than my E39 where I could get it to slide at 10 or 15mph less than what it takes the FR-S to slide out... Just because a car was designed to have tail out fun, doesn't mean it's the most tail happy car in the world, and it was designed to do controlled slides, this is not a Corvair where it would slide out from under you unexpectedly.


and if someone cuts you off and you jerk the wheel you're doing it wrong.
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