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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k
Sure it can be made to oversteer when you lift or trailbrake. But good luck using a little power-on oversteer to help adjust your line in a FWD car.
A skidpad is just one measurement of how well a car handles. The skidpad is a steady state test. The MINI comes stock with better tires so that figure is no great revelation. The BRZ hits 0.93g on it's "Prius" tires, and has been shown to hit 1.00g just by upgrading the tires and nothing else.
To say the MINI is the best handling car is foolish. It doesn't even handle as well as a DC5 Integra Type R. But that doesn't mean I'm calling it a poor handling car either.
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I mean a fwd car isn't inherently an understeering car, like all road cars it's designed that way. All modern cars tuck in when you lift off due to weight transfer and suspension design.
A lot of nonsense is bandied about concerning understeer and oversteer.
Basically, oversteer is slow and, at the limit very dangerous.
Understeer is ALWAYS faster. Therefore, a fwd car can be as quick as a rwd car.
Only when torque output gets into the 300 lb ft range do you find fwd no longer able to keep up. Then the torque simply overwhelms the front contact patches.
A mini can be made to go more quickly than a rwd car with the same power. Period.
An integra is fwd, just btw. I'm pretty sure a JCW Mini will make any integra look pretty slow. Those Hondas are very old tech now.