[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

Yeah, it really depends on what the price difference ends up being. The two big features that were pushing me towards the BRZ are the HID headlights and the interior (I don't like the red accents on the FRS, and Scion interiors tend to use lots of hard plastics), but those things are not really worth much money to me. I'm getting the feeling the BRZ with standard nav and HIDs will come in at a few grand more than the FRS even if you manage to get it for $500 over invoice. To me, it just isn't worth the extra money for HID headlights and a different interior color (I don't want want nav). At the end of the day it comes down to which car has the features I want for less money.

According to the Scion guys at the autoshow, the FR-S will have Nav anyways. Take that for what it's worth, as my opinion of those people was that they had no idea what they were talking about

I highly doubt the MSRP of the FR-S vs BRZ Premium will be more than a few grand (2k at most IMO) apart, let alone the difference between MSRP of the FR-S and the invoice+500 of the BRZ Premium. Doing so will basically make it a sure bet that no one would buy a BRZ Premium. People will pay a 500-1000 increase for HIDs, Nav (which may be standard on both) and losing the ugly red accents (and they are really ugly IMO) but if the FR-S stickers at, say, 22k and the BRZ Premium at 25K (say an invoice of 23.5 to hit your minimum of a few grand more for invoice+500) then it's obvious that the BRZ Premium won't sell. It'd be a pointless option to have IMO.

Assuming the FR-S comes in at 22k (which I doubt) the max I think the BRZ-Premium can sticker at is 24k.

I don't want to add to the pricing guesses, but I just don't think we'll see a 3k or more difference between the FR-S and BRZ Premium.