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Originally Posted by Mikem53
The first FI car I bought was back in 1988. It was a Mazda 626GT turbo. A 2.0L
Turbocharged engine with no IC from the factory. It ran 7 psi of boost in stock form. I added a homemade boost controller by bleeding off air from the waste gate and ran up to 10 psi at times. Still ran fine after 220k miles when I sold it.
Not the same car or CR I know... But here we are talking about a cooler output charge from the SC and the ability to keep combustion temps in check with DI.
Seems quite plausible to me with the proper programming.
Of course this setup will have its limits without an IC, but no reason it can't be reliable.
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That's exactly the way I see it (having owned a 14psi turbo non-intercooled Regal.). Adding a $200 IAT adapter plate to the Innovate seems like something the tuner should do on one car to develop his base tune.
I just don't "get" Dezoris's vehement dislike of the kit, off course its going to get hot and pull timing spinning its wheels in a dyno garage, that has little in common to road driving.
But then I read a real world pump gas innovate build thread like this
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33537
And the owner sells the innovate in less than a month of ownership. Seems the only folks really happy with the innovate are on E85 or meth.
I think maybe people are expecting too much "dyno" performance from this little blower , my opinion is 190 rwhp (about 250 crank hp) with the torque band improvement is just the medicine this car needs. Going over that and you have to start spending so much money upgrading the rest of the car that you could have bought a cherry Cayman in the first place.
Hopefully the tuners won't give up on the non-intercooled version, fix the tip-in knock and we will all have a reliable $3700 upgrade.
In the mean time a tune plus headers looks to be a substantial enough upgrade to hold people over till the FI kit dusts settles.