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Originally Posted by strat61caster
I've got a 20 year old POS truck I bought for $1,000, the vents blow air from outside the car without heating it, i.e. I can leave the windows rolled up and still feel refreshed without the A/C on in pretty much anything below 90 degree heat. This is not possible with my FRS even when it's 70 outside.
A lot of people are used to that kind of HVAC system, you list off several cars which blow hot air unless A/C is on, but that does not constitute "every damn car known to man", different cars have different priorities when it comes to budget, it would have been nice to have the fans blow air close to outside temperature but we bought a sports car, not a refrigerator with wheels.
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I said practically for that specific reason. Trucks are also farther off the ground where you're not picking up as much road heat. We get our air practically right off the asphalt. Old beaters usually had an awful lot of ventilation options as well, like windows behind A pillars and floor vents. I cried a little when they removed those from up-armored HMMWVs because they have a piss poor firewall. But realistically, our vents are intakes are tucked under the hood overhang for aerodynamics and to hide the windshield wipers, so it's a sacrifice for speed and MPGs.
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Originally Posted by fistpoint
I do smoke, which is precisely why I never use recirculate. So you see, there are equally valid reasons to NOT use recirc.
Recirculate IMO is only good for when you need it to be colder than what is provided by the fresh air setting. If I drive behind a noxious vehicle, I turn off the fan until I pass. Using recirc after getting smogged out by a diesel piece of shit hickup truck only serves to lock in the stink. No thanks.
You don't say? I think that part is obvious and no one is questioning that. What we are concerned about is that it will keep doing it in the colder climates...unlike every single car I have ever owned. Of course warm air blows through during the summer, we're concerned that the warm outside air is being enhanced by even hotter engine air. If it's 90 outside, it shouldn't blow 95.
Is it really that difficult to comprehend? Warm outside PLUS hotter engine air = the issue we're conmcerned about. Warm outside air not being made hotter by engine air is not the issue.
And as I said with my disclaimer, I can't really comment further until the cold weather arrives. But the initial relatively cool day we had last week is making me worry. I still have 2 cars that I drive daily so I can compare without having to say I may have forgotten how the other car reacts to heat. I'll know in a month or two.
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You must have had some fantastic cars if your vent air wasn't heated at least 5 degrees. I smoked for years and it wasn't that big a deal to turn on floor air, crack my window, and then go back to normal unless you chain smoke. Plus the A/C on this car is really damn efficient MPG-wise compared to other cars I've had, probably since the cabin's so small and it doesn't require a big compressor.
If it bothers you that much, like I said. Weather tape the rear underside of the hood (I had to do this on my old SRT-4 after I got a CF hood with no rubber strip in the rear, and I pulled it in the winter). I'm not saying it isn't annoying, I'm saying you expect way, way too much from cars. Particularly this one. It's not an Infinity trying to mimic a luxurious breeze, it's a low slung sports car with a standard HVAC pulling air from a couple feet off hot asphalt and with a recessed intake for aerodynamics. You could always get a bus driver fan.
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Originally Posted by mike the snake
I have to disagree here. My last 3 cars (Saturn, BMW 135i, and Nissan Cube) all did not blow air of any kind, hot or cold, when the system was OFF.
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I meant all cars heat outside air before/as it enters the intake. I really don't care about blowing when the system's off, mine's always on.
One other thing I found works well is windows down and recirculate on. That or weather stripping under your hood are really your only options.