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Originally Posted by a2cpc
Actually, Toyota built the prototype, then sold the idea to Subaru to build it for them. We don't know what the agreement is or who owns the "rights". Did you read the article, Toyota doesn't seem to worried about the COG...
"Tada admitted was an option.
"The boxer [engine] has benefit for low centre of gravity, but [we will develop the] concept for the next generation car first and then we will look at best possible options to fit," he said."
I know a few people that went in looking to buy a Forester, Impreza, or WRX and drove away a BRZ. Just because you weren't looking doesn't mean Subaru didn't see the BRZ as a way to keep the waning excitement up as they developed the next WRX.
And I have to ask you too...did you read the article?
"Tetsuya Tada, has finally admitted his team is developing a number of ways to increase performance of the showroom version; one of which will definitely make it to production when the 86receives its mid-life upgrade in 2015."
I don't follow Toyota, but Subaru has a habit of doing a refresh after 2 or 3 years, sometimes with an engine change ala the WRX. |
Yes, I read the article. The refresh will be in 2015. The new concept where Toyota could drop the boxer and go for a radically different FT86 would be another 3 years or more after that.
This is not happening anytime soon. Most of this is nothing more than speculation. Yes, Subaru and Toyota COULD dissolve their partnership in 5+ years, or they COULD keep it intact. More and more companies are doing partnerships when it comes to sports cars to minimize R&D. So if the FT86 continues to sell well for both Toyota and Subaru, I could see the partnership lasting.
As far as BRZ sales hurting other Subaru sales, I have yet to see any hard proof. Impreza sales last year broke records. Subaru, as a whole, is having another record year in 2013. While it is true that some people may opt to buy a BRZ over an Impreza, I don't think Subaru cares since you are still buying a Subaru. The BRZ also brings people to the store. They may come in looking for a 2 door sports car and end up buying an Imperza/WRX or other vehicle with 4 doors and more legroom.
It is going to come down to sales and demand for 2 doors RWD sports coupes. If the demand is there, Subaru will keep making the cars.