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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

It's the minutia and impalpable things that make a luxury car a luxury car. The heavy thunk when you close the door, the absence of wind noise, less road noise, cool little gidgets and gadgets that spoil you like the ventilated seating and heated steering wheel.

The twins (high spec GT86 and BRZ Limited) have many of the things you'd find a luxury car, but not executed to the level of a luxury car. What do you want at $30K OTD? In any case, it's kind of obnoxious that you can't really find many good sports cars that aren't also luxury cars or executive/businessman cars. The BRZ does well in regard; BMW...well, they're not so sporty outside of their muscle cars (///M) and their muscle cars are quite luxurious as well. Thankfully, those who pine after and enjoy Euro cars can easily afford them after a few years of depreciation.

Took the words out of my mouth!

Originally Posted by czar07

Lets be honest, I reckon 65% of the people on this forum would buy the M4 if their situation permitted it.

Personally the interior on the new BMWs is too bland for my liking. Yes it is quality, luxurious and ergonomic, but there is something missing

They've always been known to be spartan, but lately they've just gone plain bland and BMW's interiors don't do a thing for me anymore other than their nice and exude quality/craftmanship. Now the RS5 I recently sat it, just had it. Can't describe it, but if you sat it one and it didn't do anything for you you might need a kick in the nuts. IMHO, Audi has just got it right when it comes to nice quality interiors and lately their exteriors too.