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Originally Posted by TB Performance Products
WOW! I really appreciate all the feedback from you guys! Its good to see so much interest in braces! First off Id like to address some facts on our business because after all we are the new kids on the block here. We've been doing this full time for two years now and have had our hands on tons of cars and experience is our biggest weapon. As per our size, We have a small staff of 4 guys, and we have now shipped thousands of braces internationally. Hell, the Parts Manager of Scion of San Diego has been talking with us about carrying our products in their dealership and Turbokits.com has been licensing our Kia Forte Braces for 8 months now. As far as engineering goes we designed everything based off of our real world testing and sat down with an aerospace engineer who currently is out helping the Saudis design planes. The guy has been an engineer for over 30 years and was absolutely brilliant...if a little rough around the edges. Now I could sit here and post track times from our turboed TC2, 400whp speed3, or 450whp track evo and the comparison of before and after but those times can easily be refuted based on sandbagging one lap and going hard on another...Braces truly are a hard product because the difference is in feel as well as times. As for the benefits outweighing the weight argument...we totally agree, there were several braces we tested for the frs/brz that didnt make enough of a difference, and as such we dont produce them. We have always striven for complete honesty and transparency with the community. We all drive and race modified cars and want the community to have REAL products with TANGIBLE difference. In the past two years we have never had a weld failure or ANY person say that they didnt notice a massive difference, however i know you will all take this with a grain of salt as this is our business lol.
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There's no sandbagging when the baseline time is clearly competitive. That's why I specifically asked for before and after times.
What kind of tangible difference does your product provide, when you're not giving us tangible evidence in the form of results?
I don't mean to call you out, but if you're going to make claims, then I want to see them substantiated.
Now, if you had just said "he's a chassis brace, it's well crafted and high quality", then you'd be just fine in my book. With the claims of engineering in the product, I'd like to see substantiated results.
I'll offer up our car for testing, and invite forum members to come observe to see that there is no sandbagging. Competitive times will be run for both the before and after runs. If a 3 second gain was realized on a 48 second course, imagine the gains on a 2 minute course. We'll break records and then some.