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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I've put down faster laps in 100% bone stock Rav4 at the track than I have in a 100% bone stock FRS/BRZ. Sure the FRS/BRZ handles better, but not enough to overcome a power deficiency.

Absolutely serious.

For the record, the Rav4 is faster than the CRV and Ford Escape on track.


The car suffers from a viscous cycle of not having enough power. It doesn't have enough power, so they put skinny tires on it, which compromises handling.

Imagine having a 300hp 300tq turbo version for $37k. All the sudden, you have the attention of all the 370Z/Mustang/Camaro buyers as well.

I've driven the V6 Rav4 and it was a hoot! However, I'm not trying to impress American muscle cars on a track. Go play with a Miata since that's more up the BRZ's alley.